House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    The FBI does not have the authority to declassify this information nor would it want to do so because that would expose sources and methods.
     
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    I think he's guilty of doing the best he can with the damaged agency he inherited.
     
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    I'm totally OK with that.


    Also good with that.

    Half republican half democrat origins that sounds bipartisan to me.

    So? Prove that makes anything the FBI or Mueller is looking into false? Ken Starr was biased against Clinton, didn't want him in office, does that invalidate his work?

    I agree, this is a bogus memo.

    I also think it's worth noting that it came out trash day, that is, the day when you dump a story you don't want to circulate much. If this memo proved what you say, it wouldn't come out on a Friday.

    You guys are going off the rails to defend Trump for no real reason other than to save face after making a terrible decision to nominate him. You should stop.
     
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  4. The Mello Guy

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    By protecting criminals? Wow! SAD!
     
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    "no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the DISC without the Steele dossier information"

    You shouldn't be teaching reading from an IPhone or anything else if the context of this is escaping you.

    Holy hell, not even CNN is denying the Steel dossier was used to obtain the warrant.

    You were wrong, stop.
    Stop fighting this, you were wrong.
    Just stop, you were wrong, move on.
     
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  6. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd love to be a fly on the wall wherever the judge who issued the warrant is.
     
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    Irony.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What a big F'n NOTHING BURGER

    The entirety of the claim Nunes makes is that the because Steele was paid by Clinton, that it MUST be fake.

    Again, not even beginning to challenge the facts, just that it must be fake because it was paid for by the DNC

    What a huge NOTHING BURGER !!!!!!!
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This has already been explained to you, and that's what happens when you trust a Democrat.
     
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  10. Bluesguy

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    Yes it is noted they have moved from the "it contains classified materials" to well something was left out.

    What that was left out mitigates what is in the memo?
     
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    I can't wait until you realize what has actually happened, but then, maybe you already do.
     
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    They haven't been told what to think yet, probably.
     
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    So, to summarize -- and maybe put this into context for the low-brows, Obama administration operatives in the FBI, DOJ, and West Wing (and FISA court?) were so hell bent on surveilling their political opponent's campaign to find dirt that could help Hillary, they would have used a National Enquirer, TMZ or Michael Wolff article to justify it.

    collusion within the highest levels of government to illegally influence the outcome of America's democratic process is treason, and orders of magnitude worse than anything that happened during the Nixon era Watergate scandal.
     
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    For sure he hated Trump, so did many of us. Carter Page started in July, this was in September, there are many many other reason that the FISA was APPROVED. This stuff is cherry picked by Nunes, his HELP, reviewed with Trump for release via pieces thru FOX news for the dummies to read.
    This is a sad day for the FBI, CIA, DOJ, and others because NOW, they cant look into problems because the republicans WANT to CONTROL thru politics what gets seen and what doesn't. Plus, they won't release anything to the OVER sight committee...
    Democrats were not allowed to release a memo via party lines, Nunes adjusted the memo, this couldn't be anymore corrupt by OUR leaders to show corruption via workers at FBI ! If there are problems at the FBI, you deal with it, not use it to sway public Opinion about a tyrant, a shoe salesman that ran poor businesses and made money by being a PERSONAL salesman (look at me) with so so many lies that knuckleheads believe. Nunes refused to answer how much he actually worked with TRUMP on the MEMO. How corrupt.

    Just really sad...
     
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    Again show where it was part of the fisa application. Just because it motivates them doesn't mean it was used.
     
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    This Memo is a complete Doddle! Just read the stupid thing I wish I could have 12 minutes of my Life back. Worse than Watergate? Give me a Break.
     
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    I read the whole thing. It's so bogus that it practically shouts joke at you!

    Carter Page has been under survaillance for corraborating with Russian operatives for years, and was suspected of having been recruited by Russian intelligence as an agent.

    Nunes left that out. He also left corrabroation of facts in the Steele "dossier" by other intellgence agencies (MI-6 for one).

    And this idiot actually promoted this and though that this collection of cherry picked garbage would fly?????????

    Seriously?????

    Nunes ought to be stripped of his Chairmanship for stupidity.
     
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    If memory serves me well Page was under watch by security agencies since 2013 for Russian connections so why is the dossier so important in renewing the FISA warrant.
     
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    Just about everybody except Devin Nunes and Sham Hammity!
     
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    Yea I'm just not going to respond to him anymore on the matter.

    The lunacy of denying this so simple and obvious thing is beyond perplexing.
     
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    Why don't they release the warrant application so we can find out? And don't tell me there's an ongoing investigation otherwise why release the memo at all???
     
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    Yay... finally got to read the memo... Maybe I can read it tomorrow like Groundhog Day.

    Frankly, the only item in the memo that makes me think twice is Item #2, the YAHOO NEWS article... I HOPE that the 2 primary sources for the warrant were not the Dossier and the YAHOO NEWS article, if one led to the other. I HOPE the FBI used these 2 sources as corroboration of other information. Again, without the actual warrant, we just don't know..
     
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    I'm sorry, do you have me confused with belonging to the Democrat party?
     
  24. TomFitz

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    Funny how Nunes left that out!
     
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    this from the memo which they have hard data to back up that means applications, forms, etc.

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