House Republicans Impeach Mayorkas & They Make A Martyr Hero Mayorkas!

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  1. garyd

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    Na they want Euro style, they are just using Latinos and others to get there. They aren't smart enough to understand that their plans contain within them other possibilities that come with entirely unforeseen, at least by them.
     
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    There was no stormy case Stormy signed and NDA and took the money a decade later Trump decided to run for President and Stormy decided she sold out too cheaply. Note she them tried to sue Trump and lost. No perjury committed. And lets not forget congress had a whole minibureau just to handle all their NDA.
     
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    I thought individual one was still going to court on that one, his lawyer went to prison over it
     
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    Who cares? Mayorkis is only a lacky who is following orders from the top. This is a waste of time, but it might make some Republicans feel good.

    The only thing that Mayorkis has really done that is totally dishonest is when he told Congress, "The border is secure." That was a bare faced lie he told to Congress. He's done that more than once.
     
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    Perhaps that was an overreach, but at least it was undeniably a felony that he committed by perjuring himself. The two Trump impeachments took that bar far lower. The Ukraine one was as silly as it gets. Even if you believe the insurrection narrative (which is a gigantic stretch), the 1/6 impeachment was just unnecessary considering he was leaving office in another week or so.
     
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    Yes, Clinton did commit perjury and was disbarred. That is not exactly a great ethical record for a President of the United States.

    And Yes, I disagreed with impeaching him. At the time it was really stupid because it would have made Al Gore president. He would have had an inside track going into the 2000 election. Given how close it was, he probably would have won.
     
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    Actually, according to the Senate, Clinton did not commit perjury. No was he ever convicted of perjury in any state or federal court.

    As for disbarred, that is not completely true. He agreed to have his license SUSPENDED in Arkansas and was disbarred from practicing in the SCOTUS.
     
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    His lawyer went to jail for tax fraud and some sort of scam involving taxi medallions. It seems in the first part that he didn't properly report the payments from trump as income. Trumps involvement there is limited to Bragg's ridiculous attempt to claim the calling payments to a lawyer legal fees is some sort of fraud. Sadly this isn't the sorriest attempt to nail Trump.
     
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    This statement is not an accurate reflection of what took place.

    The Senate concluded that his crime "did not rise to the level of impeachment" which in that context referred to removal. They did not pass judgment on whether or not perjury occurred. The statement "does not rise to the level of impeachment" which every Democrat in existence repeated ad nauseam at the time, does not mean what was alleged was not true. It meant it was not bad enough to remove a sitting President. If anything, it acknowledges that the alleged crime did happen.
     
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    It absolutely does not.
    As you pointed out, they did not pass judgement on whether or not perjury occurred.

    As such, he is presumed innocent.
     
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    is this not it (funny thing is, Trump did not have to hide it, evangelicals did not care)

    "At a glance: The three hush"

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...ugal-payoffs-40dd9d1f3590dfcd5c494b1815e9eaa2

    "The criminal charges that Donald Trump is now facing in New York stem from three separate instances in which the former president and his associates are accused of making hush money payments during his 2016 campaign: to two women to suppress information about extramarital sexual encounters they said they had with years earlier"
     
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    Well of course not!
    Heres the thing. Every politician, every executive worth a fly fart knows, the coverup always, but always, carries 10 times the blowback of the original sin.

    Citizen Trump lying to his wives is a personal matter between he and his wives.

    A president lying to the country is a national matter.

    And like a wife lied to once, the country has real trouble trusting a president who so unflinchingly can lie to them.

    Understand now?
     
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    yep, if Trump was not faithful to his many wives, how could he be faithful to the country, I definitely understand what you are saying
     
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    Your kidding right?
     
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    I remember watching this awhile back..a great watch

    sadly, most people do not have the attention span to listen the the entire talk

    here is another I found interesting ..
     
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    You are entitled to your take on it. I know in your world no Democrat ever does wrong.

    How about NJ senator Menendez? He had all of those gold bars and a fancy car from bribe payers. I’m sure he’s as innocent as the fresh snow. :rolleyes: He’s still in the Senate, and will probably remain there. When you are Democrat, you can lie, cheat and steal. It’s okay because Democrats are for the people … and themselves.
     
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    Well, after getting Scalise back, the House GOP finally got the impeachment done.

    Now, on to tackling the border bill, Ukraine and Israel aid, and inflation. Oh, wait....

    At least, we know they are working hard at investigating Hunter and, possibly, shutting down government.
     
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    If there's one thing democrats taught us, it's that we can have impeachments while the country is being attacked with a deadly Chinese plague.
     
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    This is a “So What,” moment to me. It means nothing. There’s no way that the senate will vote guilty which takes 2/3rds of the senate. Outside of appeasing the Republican base, this accomplishes nothing. It’s a total waste of time, energy and money. I said the same for both Trump’s impeachments, they were doomed for failure long before they began, same for Mayorkas’s impeachment. Only failure to remove looms.


    Even if Mayorkas was removed, whoever replaced him would follow the same identical policies and do the same as Mayorkas. This changes nothing.
     
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    No. I believe he was impeached because of perjury.
     
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    There was no Democratic impeachment
    There was a bipartisan one, well — two of them actually
     
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    Good lord learn paragraphs.

    The people who spent 5 years manufacturing "Russian collusion" and two impeachments are now worried about precedents.
     
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    You mean like Stormy Daniels.
     
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    Just Democrats and Democrats pretending to be Republicans.

    Strange that Democrats are embracing people like Romney, since they also told us he was one of the world's biggest misogynistic racists.
     

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