House Republicans Impeach Mayorkas & They Make A Martyr Hero Mayorkas!

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  1. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    No there aren't.

    Here is what "was bill clinton disbarred in arkansas" gets you:

    "In a related case before the Arkansas State Supreme Court, Clinton was fined $25,000 and his Arkansas law license was suspended for five years. Clinton also faced disbarment before the U.S. Supreme Court, but he opted to resign from the court's practice instead of facing any penalties.Oct 9, 2016"

    Please note that "disbarred" doesn't appear anywhere.

    Here is his notice of SUSPENSION (no mention of disbarred)

    https://www.arcourts.gov/sites/default/files/opc_opinions/2000-013.pdf
     
  2. JohnHamilton

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    Nixon is dead. Menendez is still in office. Do you care to address that, or do you just want to ignore it?
     
  3. fullmetaljack

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    Personally , I think Menendez is a crook who should be in jail. Unfortunately, he still has to be indicted and convicted.

    Now, the Orange Stain is still walking around free and being supported as a candidate. Hid followers are cheering every time he manages another delay and are excusing his sexual assault. Sure sounds like an endorsement of criminal behavior from Republicans. Instead of greasing the path of due process, we get impeachment of Mayorkas and politically motivated hearings on Hunter.

    Do you care to address that, or do you just want to ignore it?
     
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    Except that you are demonstrably 100% wrong in your assertion

    The determination whether he perjured himself did not occur because this was not a criminal proceeding in any way. The only place that a presumption of innocence exists in in a criminal court where an individual can actually be put in jail. You are making a connection between the Senate and criminal courts that does NOT exist. There is not a presumption of innocence in Senate chambers.

    If you dont believe me, look to the leftist publication The Hill
    "People only get the presumption of innocence if they are indicted and facing trial for crimes. The presumption of innocence is for criminal defendants, not presidents."
    Why the presumption of innocence doesn’t apply to Trump | The Hill
     
  5. fullmetaljack

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    Thank you for that. Clinton was never indicted and is innocent.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    all about the consensual affair
     
  7. JohnHamilton

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    I am voting for Trump, if he gets the nomination, because he's the only viable alternative. You are running a senile old man who is ethically compromised. You won't address that issue, because, for you, the party is all the matters. To hell with the country.
     
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    And you're ok with Mayorkas being impeached for nothing. And you're voting for the Orange Stain.

    Well, I guess if he wins you will get your fill of political prosecutions and revenge politics. It that's what's important to you then that's your way of wishing To hell with the country.
     
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    Impeached for nothing? He has totally ignored the immigration laws and saddled our major cities with big problems trying to deal with these illegal immigrants. He also lied to Congress that "The border is secure."

    But he's just a lacky. The person who should be impeached and convicted is Biden. Mayorkas is only doing Biden's bidding.
     
  10. fullmetaljack

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    Well, at least you admit this impeachment attempt is total BS.
     
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    From an objective viewpoint, this impeachment was ridiculous. They impeach Mayorkas for not fixing the border problem the same day they vote against a bill BECAUSE they believe it would solve the border issue.

    But I don't think that's the purpose of this. The purpose is to belittle the whole Impeachment process to try to trivialize the fact that two LEGITIMATE impeachments found that Trump had committed REAL impeachable high crimes and misdemeanors. So the message is "if we can impeach Mayorkas for NO reason, then the impeachments against our beloved leader have no value"

    It's more an assault against the Constitution than an assault against Democrats.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am happy to correct your misstatement that the presumption of innocence applies to Senate impeachment hearings. I am here to help, and hopefully, you will not make that mistake again.

    You are welcome.
     
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    Nothing that couldn't be explained and accounted for, unlike your guy.
     
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    Says the people that went after anyone associated with Trump at all, including his children.
     
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    Monica became a Republican after that. (She says the Democrats left a bad taste in her mouth!)
     
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    What misstatement ?
     
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    Your misstatement was twofold. One misstatement was "Sure it does. The Senate did NOT find him guilty coupled with the presumption of innocence makes my statement accurate." This was said in the context of your original misstatement claiming that " according to the Senate, Clinton did not commit perjury."

    I provided you with a highly credible link that very clearly and unequivocally declared that a presumption of innocence does not apply to impeachment proceedings. They said it only applies in a criminal court of law. It is incorrect to assert that a presumption of innocence means that the Senate declared that Clinton did not commit perjury.
     
  18. fullmetaljack

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    Lets try again.

    The Senate did not find him guilty.
    Independent of this, no charges of perjury were ever filed in any jurisdiction. Clinton is innocent of perjury.

    Does that help ?
     
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    LOL. Mayorkas is no hero to anyone.
     
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    Meh.

    I corrected your obvious misstatement. That is the extent of my interest in this discussion. My work here is done.
     
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    For Republicans, impeachment is little more than their latest political stunt, and another aimed at keeping focus on the southern border and the issue of immigration ahead of the 2024 election. The vote is also an opportunity to try to distract from the GOP’s likely presidential nominee’s many legal problems by putting the attention on the Biden administration. And lastly, it’s a carrot that House Speaker Mike Johnson is using to generate goodwill with the far-right flank of the party as he battles to keep his leadership position and make progress on spending bills unpalatable to his most conservative colleagues.
    https://www.vox.com/politics/2024/2/14/24072478/alejandro-mayorkas-impeachment-house-republicans

    Enough said.
     
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    lol, sure, right, lol
     
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    nope, Biden did no such thing, if Trump got caught drunk driving, the right would blame it on Biden
     
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    LoL says the people that wrote 4000000 "russian collusion" articles and "why Trump should be impeached".
     

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