How a Conservative Activist Invented the Conflict Over Critical Race Theory

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  1. Hoosier8

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    Necessary to teach blacks will always be inferior in our system? You want to teach failure? Fascinating.
     
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    You don't understand it, no wonder your so scared.
     
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    The conflict was created by the fools who actually believe the objective nonsense of crt
     
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    It did no such thing lol. CRT is patently false and inherently racist.
     
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    Wheres the guy who always reports opinion pieces in the current event section?
     
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    Why bother with nuance and critical analysis when trying to understand a a rather obscure academic theory when you you can mindlessly parrot the rabbling's of fringe loonies?
     
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    It may be a good idea and constructive to try to objectively examine how the way society functions affects individuals and groups. There is nothing wrong in looking into a subject. On the other hand, if this is done in a manner that implicitly ascribes a priori guilt, it is not objective.
     
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    Did no such thing as what? That response wasn't directed at you. But how else would we teach people like the poster I responded to. Who obviously has no idea what racism really means in social sciences like Anthropology, Sociology, History, ... I mean just ... saying that Critical Race Theory is racist is easy. You just did it, and you pat yourself on the back thinking that you actually said something meaningful (you did not). Much more difficult is to understand and debate the scientific basis of what "racism" means. And that can only be understood in terms of the afore mentioned social sciences.

    So... you can just repeat right-wing talking points you hear on Tucker Carlson, or you could do an actual rational analysis. The former is very easy. But I would challenge any of those parroting those comments to at least make an attempt at the latter.

    Let the crickets chirp!
     
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    Republicans and Independents Reject The Racist Filth, CRT.
    https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/202...cans-independents-view-crt-negatively-n398472
    They nailed it.

    Crucial Independents
    And that's what it is, racism.
    What a telling statement. A Democrat describing this a "deserved punishment" for folks who have committed no crime other than their skin color which they have no control over. How can these folks frame such a great evil in self-righteous terms?
    As well it should.

    Favorable/Unfavorable
    And a healthy society should soundly reject this racist clap-trap.

    Even Black Voters are like "WTH?"
    It's becoming increasingly undeniable to all, that there are highly placed folks within the Left that have completely lost their minds, who also think that they have the right to indoctrinate our children into their madness.
    Exactly. Fairly present all sides, let folks make up their own minds.

    "CRT" is a "system in which immutable characteristics are considered determinative to the exclusion of all else."
     
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    CRT probably dates back to the eighties and "evolutionary psychology." It was one factor in the revision of the Community Reinvestment Act, at the end of the Clinton administration. The CRA was originally intended to stop "redlining" in African American neighborhoods, by banks in regard to granting loans. The revision mandated that banks not only stop redlining entire neighborhoods, but make a certain percentage of subprime loans annually and submit an annual report on their progress in serving poor neighborhoods within their areas. The Federal Reserve published a pamphlet following the revisions to guide federal banks in their compliance. One point was for banks to take into account "cultural differences" and reevaluate their loan criteria in CRA designated areas. Subsequently, many on the right, targeted the CRA as the primary cause of the Great Recession...i.e. that banks were forced to make bad loans. The theory that the CRA was the prime cause of the recession was debunked in the aftermath of the recession. Statistics showed that the rate of subprime loan failures was approximately the same in CRA designated areas as in non-CRA areas and the blame of the CRA was largely to justify financial deregulation.
    The revival of the CRT may go back to the origins of the CRA, which originally dated to the Carter years. During those years, financial modification laws were made that largely eliminated usury laws at the federal level and which then spread to state banking as well. This opened a huge new financial market, because it opened credit to people who had heretofore been denied such...albeit at the price of having to pay higher interest rates. Washington then set to balance banking interests with borrower interests. The result was conflict between cultures of the rich and poor. What further aggeravated the situation was the clash between culture and science, as the latter handed new IT tools to financial managers.
     
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    So teaching kids that all blacks are oppressed and can only excel at the whim of whites, and all whites are privileged is just fine for the left but calling that out as being unacceptable is racist.
    Teaching black kids they are oppressed is racist, Teaching white kids they are privileged is racist. And if you think both are acceptable, that makes you a racist.
     
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    Saying it's a bogeyman sort of implies that Rufo is lying about CRT. Is he? What lies has he told?

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    What the hell are you talking about. What the hell do you mean by "oppressed"?

    The responses by right wingers in this thread have revealed that teaching critical race theory (hopefully changing this inadequate name that dates to over 40 years ago) is an absolute necessity. The only solution to ignorance is education. There is no alternative....
     
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    CRT teaches negative dynamics, such as a focus on group identity over universal, shared traits; divides people into oppressed and oppressor groups; and urges intolerance. Why do you think so may white and black parents are so up in arms about it.
     
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    CRT isn't about being against bigotry or racism.

    It's about falsehoods.

    CRT should be scoffed at just like creationism is
     
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    You misspelled indoctrination.
     
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    Critical race theory=scientific racism. The left has used racism to justify its lust for power for centuries now. They used it to justify slavery and now they just want to run everything. Racism is a myth.
     
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    I did say something meaningful, if you do not believe crt is racist then you genuinely do not know what it is. I humbly suggest you do the research and learn what it is before developing such an emotional attachment to it. It is genuinely racist and patently false, built on fallacy and false information.

    you can pretend you actually know what scientific definitions of racism is and how it applies, and pat yourself on the back. You just did. But to actually be open minded and objectively view social sciences would demonstrate to you that it’s inherently subjective and antithetical to being scientific.

    only the left could have the ability to call literally everything racist, except crt lmao. The intellectual dishonesty is quite astounding and soooo predictable. The mental gymnastics to feign deeper understanding lmao.

    let the crickets chirp indeed
     
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    Education absolutely is the answer, and it would show those who are educated that it is absolutely necessary that crt has to go. Again, it’s not only genuinely racist, it’s based on fallacy and is patantly false. Your responses have demonstrated you don’t actually know what it is.
     
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    The problem with critical race theory isn't 'invented'. The entire context is predicated on 'you might be racist and not know it.' Which is total horseshit.
     
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    Why shoud anyone feel guilty for being born white? Do you feel guilty for being born whatever nationality you are? We have absolutely no control or say about what race we are born into. Accept it.

    I was in a seafood restaurant in Monck's Corner , SC. eating catfish when an elderly couple came in and placed an order for catfish also. You could tell the lady had been drinking but the waitress brought them a couple beers and then their meal. Well the lady passed out and her head fell into her plate. The man just kept right on eating and the waitress asked him "Sir, arn't you ashamed about your wife and going to do something about it? He just looked up at her and said " No. I'm not the one drunk. She's responsible for her own actions". He finished his meal, payed the bill, and shook her awake and they left. Get the point?
     
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    If it must be taught then it should be taught in the context that what happened really wasn't new to the New World but a vestige from the Old World. Should we not teach that the Native Indians had a practice of slavery among themselves? That it was not the whiteman who brought slaves over on ships but was the Spanish Portuguese who traded their cargo in the Carribbean Islands and South America long before trading in the New World. White and black plantation owners owned slaves. Most slavery started out as indentured servatude befor chattle slavery. Even today in America their is trade in human bondage in all races. Wheres the outcry and the investigative reporting or goverment action against such atrocities? Some members of my family were put to death in the death camps by the Germans, so, should I get reparations? Most every human can research where some ancenster was tied to a country of slavery. We need to get on with our lives and quit trying to get revenge. This CRT stuff is not new but is out of the Marxist handbook and was used very effectively by the Germans against the Jews. I guess whenever you have failed policies one has to find a scapegoat. Find someone to blame, demonize them and eliminate them. Sound familiar?
     
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    It certainly seems too difficult for you to understand the scientific basis of what "racism" means.

    At least you've never done it.
     
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    At the point of a government gun if necessary.... amirite? Screw local control of children's education and screw federalism. We demand a federal government control your children's education. It worked out well for Nazi Germany, Mao's China and Stalin's USSR, what could go wrong? We need camps to send parents who object or who attempt to pull their children from the indoctrination camps.... er.... public schools.

    I am absolutely fine with liberal whites teaching their children to hate themselves and their country via CRT. Go for it, you do you. Just don't move to my community and don't try force your ideas into my community using lethal government force.
     
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    It is your inalienable right to live in ignorance.
     
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