How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

To know what 'religious' means, one must first know what 'religion' means.

Circular definitions are meaningless. Circular arguments are not.

 

Oh I don't know. Conversations that end where they began seem pretty pointless to me
Especially as most discussions move around the subject and never really touch the centre of it at all.

 

How, precisely, would you go about falsifying the belief "gods do not exist"?

This definition is incomplete, amongst other issues. It does not include all religions.

#1 is actually a circular definition (therefore, it is meaningless).
#2a is an incomplete definition, as it includes some religions but not all of them.
#(2) is not a requirement of religion.

 

Yes, it does.

#1 is a circular definition (meaningless).
#2a(1) is a circular definition (meaningless).
#(2) is a circular definition (meaningless).
#2b is at least better than the others.

Reality is: "how one perceives the world via one's senses". It is different for everyone (IOW, it is as unique to each of us as a fingerprint is).

 

The OECD has had a reputation for a number of years as a 'neo-liberal' extension of the same hegemonic force mounted by central banks, the IMF, the UN, and other 'progressive', internationalist forces, both economic and quasi-governmental.

Although it's likely that you would disagree, I'll simply put forward my admittedly unsubstantiated, unvarnished opinion that any measure of 'reading, mathematics, and science' which claims higher attainment performance in the United States than in Japan, Germany, and France is, uh, flawed.

One of the main reasons I admire the German system so much is because instead of just shoving kids through 'grades' and on out the door of 'graduation' (one size fits all, based on the 'lowest-common denominator'), in Germany, educators probe repeatedly and deeply into demonstrated capabilities and potentials in each individual student! Those who exhibit proclivities in any one of several different areas of scholastic endeavor are steered in ways that will encourage them to develop their abilities, in pursuits as different as nuclear physics (Gymnasium), or, hands-on HVAC maintenance (Realschule).

We used to have that kind of focus on our American public school students, by either steering them on toward college with 'accelerated', or, 'advanced' classes, or, helping prepare them for success in the 'trades', with effective classes in 'vocational education', '4-H' (Head, Heart, Hands, and Health), and 'HE' (Home Economics). During the last twenty years especially, American kids are just passed along through the system, from grade to grade, learning little if anything of any significance... and then ending up back at home with Mommy and Daddy, glued to their smartphones, unable to earn a living on their own, and increasingly disinterested in doing so....

 

Because I care, and the alternative breeds destruction to individuals and society, and stands ready to devour the new generation.

 

Fine! Then especially in view of such time-constraints, I'd suggest that teachers assiduously avoid the topic of "sexuality" altogether!

Teachers should instruct pupils in history the same say they teach any other subject -- on the basis of actual proven FACTS using the most reliable, dependable sources of valid information throughout time. Then, use that 'rigor' to focus on READING, WRITING, MATHEMATICS, HISTORY, and other subjects that are of especially useful benefit to young minds....

OK... I said I'm done with this topic, and now I really am. Sometimes 'Goliath' wins....

 

As if Repub controlled legislature's passage of vote seeking legislation ostensibly designed to address the non-existent problem made it one in the first place. Much like the moral panic related to CRT, and voter suppression laws, Repub's legislative actions are solutions in search of a problem.

Youngkin got elected tapping in to the manufactured outrage of white suburbanites. https://www.politifact.com/factchec...itical-race-theory-isnt-virginias-curriculum/

 

After years of discussion groups it has become very clear to me that those who self identify on the right are far faster to forbid things or retain close control over them. Yet declare they are the "hands off by the state" party
To the list above I would include abortion
Is this because they feel better when everyone is marching in step to the same tune, like the Chinese or the Russians or North Koreans or as the Nazis did?

 

Doing more harm to the institution does not clean it.

 

Nice post. In my time, had Teachers done with students as they're doing now, it would land the Teachers either in the hospital or jail or both.

 

How are non-heterosexual people getting married "doing harm to the institution"?

 

I'm not so quick to dismiss PISA on ideological grounds.

The test is pretty straightforward. I think you may have a beef on what PISA measures. Anyone who has spent much time in countries like Denmark and the Netherlands knows just about everyone learns English. PISA doesn't measure that.

We don't have one-size-fits-all education, either. My grandson is in language immersion and taking Calculus even though he's in Grade Ten.

We've moved much of the trades education to two-year colleges. Not entirely a bad idea from a cost standpoint, but we have to take care to provide trades students with the pre-college training they need.

Our better school systems do a fairly good job. It's not as though we don't know how.

 

What do you think teachers are "doing now?" There are no doubt fewer creeps in teaching today than there was fifty years ago. Schools, parents and students are more aware and watching more closely.

 

Because a small minority of parents are screwy, propagandized uptight? I don't think so.

We teach them how to research, so we don't control all they see.

I taught mathematics, computer science, computer studies, economics, history, accounting, marketing and business startups. Useful enough?

 

I suppose it depends upon what you mean by "chastity." Celibacy? No premarital sex?

 

Prove they exist.

 

The answer those who ally themselves to a faith/religion, when asked to prove God exists, have always said they know he exists because they feel it in the same way they feel love or sympathy. Their relationship with God is an emotional, not factual one and there is no answer. Whether this is coincidental or honest is perhaps debatable but it really isn't the issue.

I don't have many issues with those who believe God exists. Humans have believed that since before the sun was declared a God.
What I totally object to is their habit of assuming everyone who doesn't believe is morally inferior . Which means they think they are morally superior
Which is pride, one of their own 7 deadly sins.
Please stop trying to tell us what our own reality is. This thunderous browed, finger wagging threatening attempt to heap all the world's woes from international warfare to petty theft onto those who do not believe what you think they should. It makes you oppressive, controlling and a closely potential fascist who predicts death to those who don't conform to your "norm".
If your God was much happier letting everyone live their lives as they want, accepting of course the civil and criminal law we devised irrespective of religious precepts, and stopped JUDGING people, I would feel far more disposed to listen .

Would it not be an interesting idea to rewrite our idea of a god ? It has been done many times and the current Abrahamic version is so out of date, it merely creates hatred and division, consequential war and death. Not a very successful effort I suggest.

The people who built all those henges IMO weren't far wrong. They saw the sun as the giver of life and built cathedrals as meeting places to recognise it. Surely the understanding that nature is fundamental and we should all come together to protect it, is just coming round to a full circle.
That in the end, that is all that matters.

 

Exactly how does it stand ready to devour the new generation when the abortion rate has been steadily declining since the 80's? It's the typical pattern for countries that allow abortion. Initial surge, usualy from an increase in reporting, and then steady declines.

 

Such harm is subjective. You have no objective proof of harm to society because every criteria that you could use would also be a subjective value as whether it was positive or negative to society.

 

Evasion.

How, precisely, would you go about falsifying the belief "gods do not exist"?

 

By proving they exist.

 

How would you go about falsifying the belief "gods exist".

 

How would you prove gods exist?

 

You can't.