How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

Indeed.
And a self replicating form of life has been created in a lab.
Obviously under very covert conditions.
We can also resurrect the dead. It is theoretically possible to recover and recreate dinosaur DNA .
Get it to divide and replicate and before long you will be paying to get to see them.

 

Please stop rewriting my posts.
Best to reread what I wrote.
You are presenting an impossible situation and asking me to form a conclusion. IOW it is another fairytale question."if someone dreams something, is it true or not".
Anyway I see no relevance in the question.

 

Okay so you wanna play little games. That’s cool.

Einstein theorized many things before he had the technological capability to prove them. One of which is black holes. His general theory of relativity predicted them well before we were technologically capable of proving they existed.

As for my point, you seem to be stating with extreme certainty that God doesn’t exist. An argument which essentially derives from the precept that we can’t prove him. Is it possible we just don’t have the technological capability to do so yet?

 

When we observe things in space- we are using a telescope, which is also a Time Machine.
Because the light or energy we see had to travel great distances to reach out telescope, what we see is what existed at the time that journey began, not at the moment of observation.
The sunlight you feel at noon left the sun about 8 minutes earlier- and that is really, really close in astronomical terms. .

The black hole at the center of our galaxy is 25,800 light years away- thus our observations of it are actually of the state it was in 25,800 years ago... and that's a close one.
The fact is that something observed in space today like that black hole may no longer exist, and we wouldn't see evidence of it's demise until the last energy from it traveled that distance.
It is also true that a newborn star will have existed for many thousands or millions of years before we witness the light from it's creation.
In case you need a refresher, a light year is the distance traveled at the speed of 186,000 miles per second, times 31,557,600
We know there are millions of black holes, and probably a billion we haven't found yet.

The history of human life is a speck of dust in the desert of time. It appears that all the black holes we know of existed long before we did, and will continue to exist when we do not.
If we don't figure out how to make smarter people, that probably won't be far away on the astronomical clock.

Our esteemed genius put it this way-

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.


Albert Einstein

 

So are we done with the homosexuality as a perversion aspect of this thread?

 

I can really bring that up to the forefront if you’d like lol

 

Einstein had mathematics. He knew constants and forces and light.
People 1000 years ago didn't.
As for god, believers know it exists and yet cannot agree on what it is.
So until someone explains what the word means I cant even start to discuss it.
Right now it is a collection of imaginations.

 

That’s nonsense and not how you treat anything else.

Just because people have different understandings how something operates because we aren’t capable of explicitly describing it yet doesn’t mean that thing doesn’t exist.

Gravity existed long before we had proof of what it was or could accurately describe its characteristics.

For the record, you cannot PROVE something exists without first making the assumption that it DOES exist. It’s an impossibility. How do you prove the rubber ducky exists without first assuming it does exist so you can measure it?

 

All theory and none proven. Bringing existing DNA to life is not the same as creating life. You’re still taking an existing building block of life to bring it back. As far as creating life out of nothing and that we have I would like to know it if it has happened but I doubt it has. The closest I know of is the Miller Urey Experiment. That’s actually very interesting and it was a good attempt but a fail none the less.

 

It is the topic of the thread....in theory at least.

I just want to know if I should bother to stay, or just give it up as a lost cause and leave.

 

Yes .. something like that. Most folks who talk about "GOD" / "I believe in God" -- have no idea what it is they believe in. Yes they have a box in their brain lableled GOD .. into whicy they have put all kinds of characteristics siphoned from spoon fed Dogma here and there .. but what is in the box does not square with the Holy Book in which they profess to believe .. nor logic reason or reality.

So when asked to define what a God is .. they really havn't thought much about it ..and not at all about the powers of "Lesser Divinities"

But I don't believe in other Gods they say ... but of course they do .. Define "Divine" what would divine power look like ? I have done this in detail in previous posts but you came very close to the mark .. I say an entity who . by force of will - can manipulate matter/energy - external to its own body.

Notice a human can do everything in the definition of "Divine" .. except the "External" Part .. a human can do this internally .. example - wiggle your pinky .. congrats .. you just manifested a thought into physical reality .. how this happened the first time being the missing link.

What you can't do .. is will your computer to levitate .. but if you could .. that would be "divine Power"

How much power did Satan have -- as per Job .. as per the testing of Jesus. . A whole lot .. bring fire down from the Sky .. give Jesus dominion over the whole earth .. and so on.

 

I am not against religion. I believe to let people believe what they want. However it can’t be disproven until we find a way to create life out of nothing. Until then it doesn’t much matter to me who is right and who is wrong.

 

not sure why you use the term "Nothing" .. even the God of Genesis did not create the world out of nothing. Thinking you mean .. "create life" out of inanimate .. animate from inanimate.

and this we can do pretty much ..

 

Please explain. Like I said earlier the closest I believe we got was the Miller Urey Experiment. If you know of one I would like to know

 

The improved on the initial - mix basic chemicals and add lightning . They added the natural wetting and drying of the tidal cycle into the mix with sunshine .. and what they got was self replecating molecules.

 

I would like to see the study. Do you have a link?

 

Its quite something

https://www.wired.com/2009/05/ribonucleotides/

 

Looks as if they’re getting closer to RNA and DNA. Wouldn’t that be something…

 

They have RNA .. as per the link .. a self replicating molecule .. the self replication is the key .. as the simple molecules assembled into more complex with successive stages .. the RNA gets more complex .. self replication rockets the process into light speed .. evolution has begun. cell walls form naturally in the soup .. polysacharoidal substanses .. act as filters .. keeping some ions in and some out .. once you have self replicating molecules .. in a primordial soup .. sunshine .. water .. and get this tidal evaporative process going on where it gets wet .. dries out .. and is irradiated .. successively .. Something is going to walk out some day ..

 

Wouldn’t it be bad ass if it were a dinosaur lol. I need to read the full thing when I get time but thanks for showing

 

Won't be a dinosaur .. the next stage .. after forming cell walls .. is movement ..