"How Do I Know if I'm Saved?"

so we are to simply believe the word of a man claiming to be God, as actually being God? I mean man wouldn't lie would he?

trouble is, one can't use the Bible as proof the Bible is real. we need FACTS, something the Bible has issues with.

the Old testament can't be verified as too few could read and write what really happened back then.

even during the New testament, few could. Not to mention the New testament contradicts itself in too many areas to be believed.

 

But we want your opinion. Why won't you give it?

 

I'm going to make a prediction. Right Wing's question was "How do you know if I'm saved?"

He will NOT directly answer that with HIS own opinion OR he'll claim "I already answered that" (which obviously he has not) over and over and over again.

It's another of those "Just go read _(insert Bible verse here)_" types of posts from Christian believers, who aren't quite up to the challenge of expressing, much less defending their own beliefs.

 

There have been some girls in my life that claimed that was their private parts.....

 

Q is da man!

 

In order to repent, don't I have to pent in the first place? I've never pented before. How does one go about that?

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(*)(*)(*)(*). You beat me to it. I asked the pent question myself before I came across your pent inquiry. No plagiarism, I promise!

 

Two pent replies. It seems like several of us are on the same wavelength.

I took my dog (dyslexic god?) for a run this morning. She's penting like crazy! When she rests, we can go again for the repenting part.

 

Or the other way around? If your dog has to pent, maybe you're walking her to quickly. It seems cruel to make her re-pent

 

Good point. Perhaps I should repent about her original penting in the first place.

BTW, I watched a football game the other day. One team had to pent, but there was a penalty, so they had to repent from 5 yards back.

 

Ya Know, I watched that game. I was drinkin' a pent on the first pent then I went to the fridge to get another pent and missed the re-pent.

 

Believe I'll head down to the pub for a pent of Guinness.

 

The Greek word metanoia meant change of mind or heart, repentance, regret and in rhetoric meant afterthought and correction.

 

Since you used the word "claimed", I can only assume that either you never got there or you did and they weren't girls at all

 

Unless of course one happens to have read all the other things He said.

 

You mean they may have had junk in their pents?

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still waiting for YOUR thoughts on the matter

 

no we don't have to believe there was a Jesus, or even that he said MANY things. And I’m most definitely NOT trying to make someone believe what I KNOW for fact.
But there's Archeological proof of things concerning Jesus and the MANY stories from the bible. is it really hard to believe this, simply because we were not there? Is it because it seem to be more of the unbelievable nature? There are MANY “true”, stories of men from the days of old we've read about. And we came centuries and decades later, yet MANY believe them to be true. There are things that happened to people. which seems unbelievable to others. Because they never experienced it, it doesn't mean it's untrue. peace

 

I can see you believe what Jesus said at John 10:29. I as a follower of Jesus most definitely believe and understand what he tells humans. But yet I’m up for learning the truth, if I’m misunderstanding him. so can you explain to me what Jesus meant from these scriptures?

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

John 5:30 -I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you

Matt. 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father, (Because I'm taking it to mean he HAS a Father and God). peace

 

1) you don't KNOW anything about gods for fact. no one does. to claim that you do is dishonest.
2) there is zero archaeological 'proof' of anything in the bible apart from a few names, places and dates.
3) it's not hard to believe because we weren't there, it's hard to believe because it claims magic is real.
4) many people believe many crazy things. do you believe them all, or just the ones who happen to believe the same stuff that you do?
5) things which happen to people which seem unbelievable are usually things which didn't happen, or are the product of wishful thinking and a vivid imagination. ie, I was just crowned King of Norway. do you believe me?

 

now see, you're telling me what I don't know, even though you DON'T know me. And I didn't say I KNEW anything about “gods.” though I DO know ALL other gods were NOT true gods. Compared to the God of Israel. And i'm sorry, but you're wrong, there ARE archeological proof of MANY things of the bible. I know this for a fact because I watched shows like ,National Geographic and the history chan. And ANYONE can seeks proof of biblical findings on internet search sites.

And yes I DO believe “THEM ALL.” because though I KNOW what they see, AREN'T who they believe it to be. I DO believe when they say they seen something. There are TRUE documented stories, again!, anyone can google their proofs. If what someone sees is ONLY in their minds. Then how do you explain when MORE THAN ONE witnessed the same? Did that one person projected his thoughts into the minds of those with him, So that they ALSO seen what he did?

As for those who believe they were someone else. Like the MANY who believe they once lived another life, Yes!, I believe they're being honest. Do I believe what they believe to be true NO! Simply because I KNOW... who's really behind it all. As for you, I don't know you, so I can't say you wasn't. I don't claim I know what someone knows or don't know. Is or isn't if I don't personally know them. almost anythings is possible, regardless of how it came about. peace

 

no, you know nothing at all about gods, or even if any exist. NO ONE does. anything you think you "know" about these invisible and silent creatures, said to live outside space and time, is merely the opinions of primitive and superstitious middle eastern desert dwellers. and you certainly don't know, if there is only one, which one that might be. once again, all you have is some ancient claim made by men. but, if that's enough for you to believe, then you must also believe every similar claim made. there are plenty. and let's not forget, I'm the King of Norway!

as for archeological evidence of miracles (the very foundation of all claims to divinity in the bible), there is NONE. absolutely nothing. there is only evidence of the time and place and culture in which the story is set. all stories are set somewhere, so I have no idea why you think this archaeolgy is important, or makes the slightest bit of difference.

 

well, I thank you for your kind words sir. And as I stated before, I don't know you, so I WON'T say what you are or aren't, Believe or don't believe. So to say what I don't know, is saying you know me enough to say this, which you don't. I wasn't sent here to argue or attack someones character. I only responded to someones post with the truth. As I said before, I’m not asking anyone to believe what I know is true. Again just because we believe something to NOT be true, doesn't mean it isn't. You have a good day sir.

 

okay, here's the thing ..... if you actually KNOW that there are gods (or anything pertaining to those gods), you are the only person on the planet who does, and thus you ought to provide evidence of this knowledge to the media and all fields of science immediately. actual knowledge can be demonstrated, so it shouldn't pose any problem for you.

or are you saying you just "feel" that there must be gods?

 

it seem to me, you have a problem with me only. The reason I say this is because ,I'm sure, where you live, you've SEEN religious buildings. And I'm sure, you HAVE to KNOW, there ARE... others if ONLY in the US, who believe in a invisible God. NO human on earth, can ever say, they haven't seen at least one religious building. So not only are you wrong, but YOU!... KNOW, you're wrong!

you even refuse ALL I said concerning the “media.” because I've TOLD you there's documented truth over the internet. As well as MANY true stories on TV. I don't have proof, because I don't go around recording mine or anyone else personal experiences. Even if I did and could, that's NOT going to make most non-believers, believe. Because even with proof, the nay sayers, STILL, call the one telling their story a liar!

I explain over and over, what I KNEW, NOT what I felt. Teaching the truth is what I’m sent to do, NOT to prove I KNOW there's a GOD, But to teach there IS one. I didn’t accuse you of NOT being a king, NOT because I BELIEVED you were. But because I COULDN'T prove you WASN'T! But You, as with MANY are so quick to NOT believe, you act as though you KNOW for sure.

And I say this to MANY, “YOU say I'm wrong, FIRST!... you got to prove you're RIGHT! ,in this case, they NEVER DO! I responded ALL your questions as best I could. in a God-like manner, because I come in his name. even though you were sarcastic and somewhat rude. It seem Your intentions are to personally attack. Not to listen or try to understand. I'll let you save your next attack for another believer of an invisible God. peace

 

ah .... so now you're saying that churches prove your god is real? that's how you KNOW? in that case every supernatural creature which has had some sort of buliding constructed in its honor must be real. what do you think of that? does your favourite god seem diminished as a result of all these other real gods?

documented truth on tv and internet? what does that mean, exactly?

and lastly, because you can't prove I'm not the king of Norway, does that mean I am? or would be an insane assumption given the millions of other possible explanations there could be for making such a claim?

oh yeah, no need to take it personally. I like to quizz theists who claim knowledge where none exists

 

By that standard of proof.....I am Samwise Gamgee.

A. Obviously Samwise Gamgee is real.....he's in books and movie theatres and on TV (usually TNT) constantly. All fully documented.

B. Since nobody can prove I'm not the hobbit of the Shire, Sam, ....that proves I am.