How Long Before A Gay Couple Sues A Church....

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by TheHat, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    For not marrying them?

    I give it 5 years tops. Obama and the leftists are hell bent on destroying religious freedom in this nation. This lawsuit, which is coming, will annihilate our 1st amendment completely.

    What say you?
     
  2. Pennywise

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    How long? Couple months on the outside.
     
  3. samiam5211

    samiam5211 New Member Past Donor

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    Never

    No church is under any obligation to perform a marriage ceremony for anyone.
     
  4. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Churches aren't the state. A church can't be required to do something that goes against its religion.

    If a gay couple sued a church for not marrying them, then the case wouldn't go very far.
     
  5. BlackSand

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    Already happened ... and they won.

     
  6. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    That's an interesting interpretation of tax exemption of religion. I can see where the judge was coming from, but I think that ruling was unconstitutional.

    At the most, the judge could have argued that tax exemption of religion requires a church to not discriminate, but then the church should have the option to revoke its own tax exemption and then file as a non-profit in order to avoid doing the ceremony.

    Frankly, if I were leading that church, I would have sought a ruling from a higher court.
     
  7. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    No one has a right to force a priest or minister to marry them against that priest's or minister's will, period.
     
  8. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    Wow!

    So sure people are of this sort of thing not happening.....lol.

    It's coming in mass real soon.
     
  9. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that a lot of judges aren't constitutionalists. Allowing gay marriage isn't the problem. Having the wrong people in charge of courts is.
     
  10. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    Actually....lol, the ruling on gay marriage resulted from....having the wrong people in charge....lol.
     
  11. Serfin' USA

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    Not really. DOMA and state bans on gay marriage violate civil rights.

    That's because the state is involved.

    Marriage should be a matter of churches making decisions for themselves without fear of government or courts getting involved.

    In fact, marriage and government should be completely separate to begin with.
     
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    RWers really hate equality don't they?
     
  13. goober

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    That's not the same thing.
    The couple didn't get married in the church or by the church.
    They rented an area that the church offered for rent to the public.

    That's a different question completely on whether you can refuse to rent something offered to the public on the basis of sexual orientation.
     
  14. Casper

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    Why would they, there are already churches that will marry them. So you were ranting about what now?
     
  15. TheHat

    TheHat Well-Known Member

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    Well, there in lies the lawsuit...lol. Some do, so who is to say, some gay couple won't sue a church that doesn't?

    Not a rant, it's called a discussion. If you can't carry on a discussion, then carry your ass elsewhere.
     
  16. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Churches have the right of religous freem to not marry they do not agree with hence why sue them that will not change.
    How about you kiss it instead, that the sort of discussion you were looking for?
     
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    That's what I would have said about florists, too.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and the florist who didn't want to sell flowers to a gay wedding, or the photographer who didn't want to photograph a gay wedding.....the gays knew that there were ALREADY florists and photographers who would furnish them also, but these gays had to dally in the typical liberal intolerance, and sue them anyway.

    THAT is why is might happen with churches, Casper.
     
  19. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Churches and Florists are different animals, one is a business and the other is ............... Oh wait you may have a point there, LOL.
     
  20. BlackSand

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    The Title of the thread is "How Long Before A Gay Couple Sues A Church ..."
    My Goodness ... People will argue with anything.
     
  21. goober

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    Yes, ending with an ellipsis indicating there is more.
    And the first line of the OP is "For not marrying them", or didn't you get that far?
     
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    Here's the part that was left out (which I'm sure was not an oversight):

    The people were claiming they were denied the right to marry on PUBLIC grounds, not in the church.
     
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    No church is obligated to marry anyone. If the church refuses to marry a couple they can just go down to city hall. Immediate remedy available.
     
  24. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I see.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't be surprised if some radical activists try this. Even if gays have a right to legal marriage in a certain state, that doesn't mean they have a right to force a private institution (church) to perform a wedding ceremony for them.
     

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