How many civilians Obama administration has killed ?

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was hoping for a solution that might have the least chance of actually happening. I have been disgusted with ALL religion for my entire adult life but am aware it cannot be eliminated in the next thousand years or so. What do you recommend we do in the meantime?
     
  2. FreedomSeeker

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    Ye of little faith! :)

    Hehe, "faith" in humanity, "faith" in technology, "faith" in science.

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    The number of "nones" (their religion? "none") has DOUBLED in the last 20 years in America alone! You need more, uh, "faith" in that solution, my friend.

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    His solution of continuing to kill many many innocent civilians can't go on any further - it needs to stop now, and pursue an ideological solution. Don't you care about killing innocent civilians?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well...judging by the last couple thousand years...can you blame me?
     
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    As usual you make a good point.
    But they didn't have a "small world", they didn't have the internet, like we do today. I'm conversing with you, for example, and we could just as easily be half-way around the world from each other as in the same building right now! THAT'S one example of what I'm trying to get at. We instantly see pictures of the Bangladesh attack as it's happening. But in Jesus' day pictures would take months to travel.....uh, wait.....uh, never mind (you get my point.) :)
     
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    Collateral damage is a fact if war and if you are a terrorist you put everybody around you at risk, you make that choice. In all wars we attack military targets knowing full well that some civilians will be killed so nothing new here. And some of you liberal children may be shocked to hear in some wars we have specifically targeted civilians. IMO obama has been to hesitant to kill so called civilians because he refuses to bomb oil trucks and makes the claim that the drivers are civilians. If you get a paycheck from ISIS you are ISIS, bombs away.
     
  6. tecoyah

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    Interesting points, but the "Small World" and the internet are being used by Islam to do what it is doing and the only ay to prevent this would be to eliminate both. Islam is spreading vs. being contained or lessened and as with Christianity it will continue to do so for quite some time. The IDEA of eliminating religion is wonderful and if achieved would certainly eliminate much of the death and hatred this world contains. This however is not something we will see anytime soon, so we instead must fight against the things it does....Abortion fights for human rights, sexual freedoms, corruption of politics, blowing stuff up....whatever.
     
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    Are you blaming an entity for the actions of humans that have free will to commit or not commit the act of killing?
     
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    More civilians die in the course of an invasion. So long as the civilians are specifically targeted they should not be Obama's concern.

    Civilians are clearly of no concern to IS leaders or they would segregate themselves from civilian non-combatants.
     
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    Why would we apologize? By the way 1,100 on 7 years? HOLY FUCING GOD THATS SOOOOOOOOOOOO HORRIBLE. How can we live with our selves? That number is so outrageously high. "Cough cough sarcasm. Cough cough".

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    "No generation has done that". Are you... Are you serious right now? That was an actual serious statement? Like, 100% you believe that statement? Wtf?
     
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    You are so emotional right now. Try thinking with some damn logic.
     
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    No. In his mind, he is never wrong. He and Hillary certainly screwed up Libya and Syria.

    Religion of Peace visits a Christian nurse in Libya.

    [Redacted] gang-raped a Filipino nurse this week in the Libyan capital of Tripoli.
    The Christian woman was assaulted by up to six men.
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    A Filipino nurse has been kidnapped and gang-raped in the Libyan capital of Tripoli.

    The woman was seized outside her residence on Wednesday and taken to an unknown location, where she was sexually abused by up to six men, the Philippines’ Foreign Affairs spokesman Charles Jose told reporters.

    She was released about two hours later and taken to hospital for treatment.

    The incident took place only a few days after a Filipino construction worker was beheaded, amid allegations he was killed for not being a [REDACTED].

    Following the latest incident, the Filipino government called for the evacuation of its 13,000 citizens in Libya, which has been rocked by violence in the last few months.

    “We reiterate our call to our remaining nationals in Libya to immediately get in touch with the Philippine embassy in Tripoli and register for repatriation,” said a foreign department advisory note issued on Thursday.

    Libyan rebels have been fighting against government forces over the control of oil production. The rebels seized several ports last year and threatened to start selling oil independently unless they obtain a greater share of oil revenues and autonomy from Tripoli.
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    Compared to the amount of murder of innocent lives, about 137 per hour, in American Abortion Clinics it's a comparatively small number and yet I don't hear outrage from the progressives.

    Compared to the amount of blacks killed, 334 this year, in Chicago alone it's a comparatively small number and yet a city run by progressives seems to be paralyzed to do anything about it.

    I think we need to get our own house in order before we start worrying about some collateral damage we cause fighting terrorists.
     
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    Don't that make them Martyrs? They each died for the cause and got 72 virgins. Don't know what a two year old will do with them though.
     
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    No one bothered to tell them the virgins are men so damn ugly that no woman wanted them.
     
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    But it's been that way for centuries, just ask this man about the trail of tears, wounded knee and the long list of genocides of his people by the European invaders.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Massacres_of_Native_Americans

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    Sounds like cooked stats to me. If you want civilian death count, you don't use drones in three countries. You use all instruments in all countries, do you not?
     
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    Thank you for not answering my question...I will ask it again: How many innocent civilians did your lord, GW Bush kill?...
     
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    Rule 11 thread closure

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