How many people have to die before America legalizes drugs?

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  1. iAWESOME

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    America has a drug problem. Why do you think the drug Cartels from South America fight so hard to get their products up here to America? For their health? They do it because AMERICANS are hooked on the drugs. So, before the drugs can reach our beautiful country, people have to be kidnapped and slaughtered. Then they get here, sold, which only leads to more violence in our inner cities, and our jails get overpopulated. Why does any of this happen? Because there is a demand in America for these drugs. Its not hard to understand. You can't regulate morals, and doing so gets you nowhere, and only causes problems. Why this country never seems to understand this baffles me....just stupid..
     
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    Or we can simply reform society instead of giving into druggie demands.
     
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    Absolutely correct. The violence from the importation and massive black market of drugs could be removed if the government stepped out of the picture.
     
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    Crackheads will smoke crack regardless of what the law says, which means there is someone willing to sell it to them..
     
  5. Jack Ridley

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    How does that work?
     
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    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People have strange beliefs like if drugs were legal then it would be perfectly legal for people to drop acid, smoke crack, and shoot up meth while driving and everyone would do just that, resulting in a society where there is nothing but drugged up drivers killing children faster then they can be born. Then the population will decrease and China will invade. Also if you repeal one law, you're on the road to anarchy and murder will soon be legal.

    I honestly don't know where people come up with this stuff. I may be exaggerating a bit, but the core concept of each of those arguments has been used to state why they should not be legal. Personally I say legalize them all and stop this bull (*)(*)(*)(*) 'war on drugs' which is costing way, way too much both in lives and money.
     
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    You can't reform "society." You can try to impose your beliefs on society through the initiation of force, but that's all. Do you seriously think reforming society is a more realistic solution than legalizing drugs? What is more important to you -- reducing violence or reducing the number of consenting adults who do what they want without harming anyone else?
     
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    Education on drugs has been successful in smoking numbers; I don't see why it'd be successful in other areas.

    Marijuana may be an inevitable legalization, heroin et al shall not be. More developed nations don't have those problems for a reason.
     
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    Brainwashing, it works great for the narrow minded. Imprison those who oppose. I think that's what she means.
    There is no point to waste lives, nothing has even been accomplished for the public.
     
  10. Jack Ridley

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    That's because people are allowed to smoke.
    I'm sorry, what developed nation with drug laws isn't jailing tons of its own citizens?
     
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    Tobacco is legal and we can still educate people. Why not do the same with drugs? You can educate while simultaneously ending the violence associated with drugs.
     
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    Yep only America has drug problems. Oh wait:

    Scotland has again topped the world league for cocaine consumption.

    Figures published by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) show 3.9% of Scottish residents aged between 16 and 64 used the drug in the past year.

    That was a higher proportion than in any other country and compares to 2.5% for England and Wales.

    The figures also showed Scotland with a rate of heroin use twice that of the rest of the United Kingdom.

    The UN's annual World Drug Report was published in New York as part of the organisation's attempt to understand the transnational nature of the drug trade which, it says, requires to be tackled globally.

    Among the statistics is an analysis of each country, with Scotland shown as having the world's highest percentage of people using cocaine at 3.9%.

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    The equivalent figure for the United States was 2.4%.

    The figures also suggested Scotland had the highest rates of consumption of heroin (1.59%), cannabis (8.4%), amphetamines (1.4%) and ecstasy (2.5%) of all nations in the UK.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13898046
     
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    Drug use in Japan and Singapore is among the lowest in the developed world.
     
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    This is the best policy, and the most likely to work.
     
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    Because there is no reason to believe it would; and the domestic consequences are outrageous.
     
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    Do they not have jails in Japan? No gendarmes with truncheons?
     
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    Some of us are far more outraged at man's inhumanity to man.
     
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    I have an idea, why not just let people do ANYTHING they want? Why regulate a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing? If it feels good, do it. People like you are the reason this country is becoming a cesspool of perversion.
     
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    Exactly what makes you think if drugs were legalised thousands of people would suddenly start using them?
     
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    There are some in jails; but its much fewer per 100k than in the US or other nations. Successful campaigns.

    What inhumanity?
     
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    People calling for legalisation are not against regulation - quite the opposite, in my case I feel it can be better regulated if it was legal.
     
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    Because people would try it, something previously illegal now available; American rebels would have to try it. They're also inexplicably addictive; so one use would pretty much create slaves to a 'government product'.
     
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    Violence, imprisonment, the suppression of rational thought.
     
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    What's wrong with that?
     
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    I disagree; rebels would and in fact do use drugs precisely because they're illegal - there's nothing fun in following the law if you're of that sort of person. Chances are, the addicts that would exist under legalisation have already been addicted.

    And remember, all these arguments are equally as valid in the case of alcohol.
     

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