How should abortion be handled in states that outlaw it?

This thread isn't about whether or not abortion should be legal, if you want to discuss that please find another thread.

This thread is about how you want abortion to be handled in states that specifically outlaw it. Should a woman who has an abortion instate be charged with murder?
If she makes a plan to have an abortion out of state should be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Should the abortion providing doctor be charged with conspiracy as well?

 

I would guess it would be treated like tattoos. If the state doesn't allow it then you drive across the line and do it there.

But I don't know how you can answer that question without crossing over into the philsophical views of abortion.

 

Exactly which state bans abortion?

 

How are they even going to know you had an abortion? If I live in Georgia and I drive to Florida to have an abortion how is Georgia ever going to know what I did? And the doctor in Florida is under no legal obligation to provide Georgia with any information whatsoever about his patients.

 

Abortion should not be a federal issue. It should not be a political football. It has nothing to do with the operation of the federal government that should concentrate of national security, fiscal soundness, maintaining our infrastructure and things of that nature. Let the states deal with abortion and gay marriage and marijuana etc.

 

This isn't about which state. This is simply a hypothetical question. How would you want abortion handled if it was made illegal in your state?

 

Ronmatt, that is what i (*)(*)(*)(*)ing asked.

What do you want the states to do?

 

There are plenty of ways. They could tell a friend or a spouse. Or they could use a credit card from the home state in question.

 

Ah, one of those "if Grandma had balls she'd be Grandpa" threads.

 

The credit card angle won't do anything. It won't say "abortion" on it. And how many people do you think are going to tell someone, who is then going to tell the cops? And even if they do they still need evidence. They cannot arrest you simply because someone calls and says you did something. They can investigate, of course, but what are they going to find? "Yep, she's got an emplty uterus, let's arrest her".

 

Same thing that happens to people who leave their small children locked in 120 degree cars on a sunny day while they go shopping.

 

If my state deemed abortions illegal I would be fine with it.

 

There is no state that outlaws abortion...why? because of Roe vs. Wade ( 1973 ) which is federal law. You presented a hypothetical in which Roe v Wade didn't exist and individual states passed laws pertaining to abortion in their state alone. My conjecture in reply is A) it's not a federal issue and there should be no federal law pertaining to abortion. Ergo; B) it would be decided in individual states as to whether or not that state allowed abortion. At which point your question would become relevant. But all is moot, as we indeed do have a federal law. Now, to address what you ****ing asked; If states had the right to govern themselves and elected to make abortion illegal...then if a citizen wanted an abortion, they'd have to go to a state in which it was legal. period, end of story.

 

You're supposed to make believe, to play in to the larger point, which is that it's not enforceable.

 

Oh...I didn't know I was on the Sesame Street forum. My bad.

 

Charge women with murder? Are you nuts. Don't you know that the reduction in murders in the US during the early 1990s after Roe v Wade was largely the result of women being allowed to have abortions?

Generations of criminals were not born thanks to sensible decisions by women who didn't want their kids.

 

It is amazing how many Americans are focused upon "abortion", when the primary issue SHOULD be preventing unwanted pregnancies.

 

I don't think the Fed or any state should be involved in the abortion issue.
It's none of there business.

The women should rise up against any state legislation. When those politician who want to pass anti abortion laws see how many votes they will lose they will back off.

 

No state should be allowed to outlaw legal abortion.

 

States rights.

If the state outlaws it, it is outlawed.

We aren't citizens of the United States of America. We are citizens of the states or "Nations" we are born to.

Notice how the UN calls all the nations "states" today.

 

Glad you picked up that pic in your avatar....just to funny.

And very up to day with the elites real feelings of the Obama's....


MAN what a DOO!.... LOL.

I don't think Obama understands he is not part of the elites solution, he is just fodder for their calls. BUT one of first things Obama did was support the genocide against the people of color. (Planned Parenthood)

Mabye when he plays golf, he is just trying to get away...but he can't get away... He will find out soon enough, his children aren't welcome in the world of the power elites. But I'm not either, but I already know that.....

 

I would imagine it would be treated like sexual tourism/child prostitution. If you travel to another country to engage in it, you can still be charged in your home country.

Johnny, I completely agree with you. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and I would really like to see more focus being put on the prevention of unwanted pregnancies. We as a nation can't really talk too much about responsibility if we're not doing all we can to stop this problem at the root. I think we could actually get abortion to dwindle down to a non-issue if we made more effort in that area. I'm not sure Planned Parenthood would let that happen without a fight. But (*)(*)(*)(*) 'em.

 

Her boyfriend should be charged until he comes up with enough money to resettle her in a civilized state, where she can begin her abortion. Let's call this legal process the "prevention to conspire to comit murder" law. Then she should be locked up in a rehab for 10 years.

 

Under the law you cannot prove an abortion took place in the first place - so making it illegal is an exercise in futility.

 

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"Planned Parenthood health centers focus on prevention: 83 percent of our clients receive services to prevent unintended pregnancy"

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are/planned-parenthood-glance-5552.htm