How to Police?

Black males represent less than 6% of our population and yet they’re responsible for approximately

50% of our total murder
30% of our total rape
50% of our total robberies
35% of our total aggravated assault
30% of our total burglaries
And 40% of our total violent arson

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43

Do you think they should be treated the same as a group of people who are responsible for say 1% of our violent crime?

Should a black neighborhood with an absurdly high crime rate be policed with the same amount of police traffic as a white neighborhood with almost no crime? If a cop sees a group of blacks hanging around in a gang ridden neighborhood should he treat them the same as a group of whites hanging around in a neighborhood with essentially zero crime? Should a cop treat a black man in that crime-ridden neighborhood with tattoos, a doorag and an attitude the same way he treats a nice middle aged white man in a nice neighborhood?

Pretend for a moment that you’re a police chief with 10 neighborhoods to protect. 9 of them have virtually zero crime and are white neighborhoods. 1 of them is a black neighborhood FULL of crime, drugs, murder, rape, robberies, home invasions and gangs.

You have only 10 officers to do the job. Would you put one officer in each neighborhood? Or would you disproportionately send your officers into the black one? How would you use your finite resources?

 

Criminals should be treated as criminals regardless of what church they attend, who they vote for or the color of their skin. Your theory only makes sense if all people of one race are criminals and all people of a different race are not.

 

So you would send 1 officer to every neighborhood as opposed to the black neighborhood with a grossly disproportionate amount of violent crime just to avoid the perception of racism?

Not only do I not believe that but that would be a unacceptable waste of resources. You’re essentially asserting we should use the exact same policing in every community regardless of crime level simply because we don’t want to profile people.

 

That is not what I said. I said criminals are responsible for crime not races, religions, or political affiliation.

 

I would take a vote in the problem neighborhood and say, "ok guys, you have 10 murders a day in this community so do you want me to send more cops to protect you or would you like less cops and let the murders continue"?

Then let them vote.

It's on them at that point.

 

Psh. Resources arent finite. Thats a conspiracy used by the rich to opress minorities.

 

Who is them? Why do they get to vote and not you or me?

 

How do you police? Easy. Defend yourself against white criminals, and if a cop encounters a black criminal they should stand there and do nothing, even if they are running straight at the cops with a weapon
OK cool, looks like we got this one figured out!

 

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"Should a cop treat a black man in that crime-ridden neighborhood with tattoos, a doorag and an attitude the same way he treats a nice middle aged white man in a nice neighborhood?"

Hell, the white man could be a serial rapist that gets away with it over and over again because he's in a nice neighborhood.
People are individuals dude not groups!

 

Unfortunately, the left will no longer look at your correct comment as fact. Iw will be harder for cops to deal with any black offender from this day forward.

The very purpose of statistics is to put things into groups. Face reality, blacks commit the vast majority of violent crime in our major cities. If any specific group in that statistical information wants to change the numbers, it starts with them taking responsibility to bring those numbers down not complain because "the man" is beating on them because of their color.
Until then, accept the fact that there will be more arrests, convictions, and prison time associated with that particular group.
Thank Lyndon Johnson for this tragedy.

 

So let’s assume for a moment that 9/10 white people were criminals. And 1/100 black people were criminals.

Would you be justified in targeting the white population for police activity moreso than the black?

 

Interesting that you are now looking at statistics, yet on another thread when I showed statistics of the number of times an officer was actually harmed or killed to show that they are overly paranoid when confronting a suspect, you ignored it completely. Just as a refresher - here it is...what do you make of these statistics?

officers were assaulted in about 0.09 percent of all interactions, were injured in some way in 0.02 percent of interactions, and were feloniously killed in 0.00008 percent of interactions

 

It is going to come down to this,
No cop regardless of race will be allowed to arrest a black person for any crime without the threats of marches, looting, and burning. Cops are now taking early retirement and leaving as they can see their careers ending in prison time for even the smallest error in judgment. Good for them, get the hell out while you can.
A customer at the training facility where I work runs a private security firm that specializes in corporate and personal security. Since the day after the riots started, he has been inundated with requests from companies for his services. He is now actively recruiting those officers that have decided to retire early and his business is (pardon the pun) booming. I fear the lefties are about to release the Kraken and they have no clue. Can't wait until one of them dials 911 and they send out a comfort specialist.

 

I didn't worry about the cops. They used to be able to handle the situation as it developed. 10 million arrests per year and the fatality rate among cops was along the lines one would expect.
BTW, Don't be offended, I ignore a lot of what you say.

 

Option 3: Would you like the Sheriff to swear in and arm all of you who are not felons as volunteer deputies to patrol your blocks in overwhelming force and instantly restore the peace?

 

Been done already. Defund the police, more death.

https://deadlinedetroit.com/article...olice_detroit_did_that_now_children_are_dying

 

No. Criminals are criminals not all of any group are criminals therefore innocent people of all groups need to be treated as innocent and criminals of all groups need to be treated as criminals.

 

I'm not offended. But for someone who ignores a lot of what I say, you seem to respond a lot.

 

That's because you seem to be rational and we agree on more than either of us thinks.

 

Thank you. But may I make a sincere suggestion? If you consider me rational, perhaps you shouldn't throw out nasty little comments about ignoring most of what I say. The conversation can go no where once that happens.

 

No offense, I ignore most of what most here say.

 

You are just rationalizing bigotry and racism.

The Constitution is based on "innocent till proven guilty ..." while you are advocating "most likely guilty by association.".

By the way, while white guys make commit fewer crimes, their individual crimes have far higher totals than black perpetrators.
2 white guys with briefcases stole more money in the last thirty years than all the black criminals stole combined.
Corporate fraud is responsible for billions more in theft each year than petty criminals ever thought of stealing - corporations mostly owned and operated by white people. Securities fraud is almost exclusively white crime.

So if your claim is that the race committing most of the crime should be more closely policed - then we should be concentrating our investigative resources on rich white folk.

 

People shouldn't even go to prison for non violent crimes such as so called "white collar" crimes. I am much more worried about some 19 year old that runs into a convenience store with a gun where my wife happens to buying a Coke than I am someone stealing my pension funds.

 

I seriously hope this was sarcasm!!!