https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-linked-to-decline-in-brain-function-study-finds-nqsxm06j3

wrong

http://www.alecomm.com/images/cwattachments/3301_d0af8e9596b9b2ca85c1ccaee438eaee.pdf



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7129059/pdf/main.pdf

 

I have no idea how it crossposted this from the other thread to here lol

but since it did......



Only have to take 1 to 4 each day for 5 days! .....and the prices are inflated now due to extremely high demand! LOL Kids flipping burgers and pushing mops around can afford it.

Good for you! Just make sure you pay your taxes!

 

Interesting. Who is protesting Covid? Can you link to one of these protests?

 

Do you know what “in vitro” means? It means they got it to work in the lab - on cell cultures. What works on cell cultures often either does not work on real life humans or kills them outright

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opin...mectin-for-covid-heres-what-can-happen-w.html

https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19

Memes

Cochrane database

https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full

And if you do not know who or what the Cochrane Library is then you should not be posting medical advice

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389

I could go on but the trustworthy sources such as Cochrane, BMJ etc state that there is no solid clinical evidence backing the use of Ivermectin

 

I’m not the one calling people stupid and saying they don’t deserve to live.

Please use the PF quote function to back up your claim I believe people who aren’t super healthy deserve to die.

You have made a false claim here. Can you back it up?

 

So what should we do to insure that we don't catch this virus?

 

Vaccination vastly reduces the risk of these sequelae

 

Since this research is based on serious, not mild, cases of Covid, and since vaccination very significantly reduces the chances of one's case, should they become infected, becoming a serious one, clearly this study provides another good reason, to get vaccinated.

(If you just read the SNIPS, it says that merely to "catch the virus," or to catch it & have what are considered to be "mild," symptoms-- not requiring medical attention-- has not been shown to cause these brain changes).

 

I have never had polio or small pox.

 

If you actually read the study, the subjects were volunteers from a demographic that experienced milder than average symptoms. Also all hospitalized subjects were excluded from the final analysis.

Here are some facts from the methods section if anyone is interested in an accurate portrayal of the study as opposed to the unsubstantiated opinions this thread seems to be filled with. The pull quote from the abstract says “milder” cases, not mild.

The subjects were primarily white affluent healthy individuals with few comorbidities. Page 30 of the “Nature”
publication of the study.

Of the 401 subjects in the primary analysis, only 15 were hospitalized. Of those 15, only 11 were hospitalized for Covid. The other four were hospitalized for other primary reasons.

Fifty of the subjects were diagnosed as past infected by home administered antibody test so it’s likely many of these were asymptomatic. If they had been sympathetic they most likely wouldn’t have been PCR tested during their active infection period.

This was not a study of severe Covid cases.

 

If you are serious about not getting infected or getting severe Covid, don’t rely on the advice of most healthcare “professionals” or public health bureaucrats. The vast majority of both either do not know about most effective mitigations or they wish you to remain unaware of them.

The goal is not prevention of infection or sequelae. The goal is not public health or care of the individual.

 

The bold above should be “would” not “wouldn’t”. “Sympathetic” should be “symptomatic”.

My proof reader needs a talking to.

 

Sorry for misinforming you, @Heartburn , & anyone else who'd read the assumption I'd made, from just the first line of the Nature article abstract, in the OP SNIP:

There is strong evidence for brain-related abnormalities in COVID-191–13. It remains unknown however whether the impact of SARS-CoV-2 infection can be detected in milder cases, and whether this can reveal possible mechanisms contributing to brain pathology.

Thanks, @557 , for correcting me, on this. Well, in that case, this is a rather concerning story, wouldn't you say? Since you've already read the study, do you mind my asking, was there any mention of there being a mix of both immunized & non- immunized participants? (If so, was there any discrimination that could be made between them, in the results?)

 

The abstract is misleading in my opinion. Not your fault.

Yep it’s concerning. It’s one reason I believe we need to consider more than one mitigation. As always when this subject comes up I want to point out sequelae like this are not unique to Covid. Neurological damage is well documented in influenza and even asymptomatic common cold infections. But yes, this is concerning as are all Covid sequelae (that also mirror those from influenza).

The study didn’t examine vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. It was submitted for review in August 2021 so based on the 140 approximate days from Covid diagnosis to second brain scan, few people in that age demographic would have been fully vaccinated when the study participants had Covid.

The only data collected on subjects outside of having two scans and a past Covid infection was basic stuff like BMI, waist circumference, diabetic or not, and blood pressure, etc.

It would be nice to know vaccination status though, wouldn’t it? Maybe someone is studying it now. The only data (I haven’t looked for a while) I’ve seen showed sequelae in breakthrough infections happen at about half the rate as in the unvaccinated.

 

Those arent memes, they statistically charted results.

So according to your jama link we have proof that 472 out of 478 people lived, .8 mortality none were vax'd, (and there is no statements confirming that the people that did die had no complications contributing to their death) none of them were vaxd, and anyone that had serious complications that have been saved by the vax, Im sure omicron got'em since we see people dropping like flies in the US at a rate of nearly 3000 per day!

 

Memes.

 

unless they are academic citations from a peer reviewed journal they are memes

Hmmm trying to work out where to start with someone who does not appear to understand the principles underpinning Random Controlled Trials

This was a double blinded RCT and there was no difference in outcome between the sugar pill and the ivermectin
Ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19: A systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34181716/

 

LOL

I get it you dont.

1) There were a total of 476 unvaxd people.
2) Only 4 people total died.

Proof the vax is next best thing to useless!

 

Goal post shift

When you read my research paper did you think to look at the TITLE?


Effect of Ivermectin on Time to Resolution of Symptoms Among Adults With Mild COVID-19

 

Did you read my research?

Do you know how to read a chart or graph?

My research paper has 1.4 billion participants!

Ivermectin was approved in India, they have 4 times the population and only 25% of the US 'Vax only' death toll.

Seems to me that India has much better results than we do with phizer, moderna et al

Seems a bit strange that merca would outlaw ivermectin!

 

Unless your “paper” is included as a citation I am not reading it - and your “graph” since it does NOT have a citation or source is as useful as a made up meme
Success of ivermectin in preventing COVID-19 in India has not been proven
https://www.newswise.com/factcheck/...-india-has-not-been-proven/?article_id=761091


Not a research paper but way more valid than an anonymous graph off of the internet

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=cov...JoAXAAeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCwAQo&sclient=gws-wiz

Like it or not, 1) ivermectin was approved in india, 2) India has 4 times the population of the US and 3) 25% the mortality of the US.

The US stats prove its NOT the vax!

 

Ivermectin was withdrawn in India for use with Covid as it was shown not to work and your “research” is internet twaddle with made up graphs

India also

1. Has a generally younger population
2. Fewer obese individuals
3. High compliance with masking social distancing and lockdowns
4. Higher vaccine compliance with masking
5. Higher vaccine rate
6. Lower absolute tracking of deaths from Covid (high probability under estimated)

 

citation?
How much younger"
Cite the data as in real numbers we can review on your claimed effect to the outcome for india.

citation?
How many obese?
Cite the data as in real numbers we can review on your claimed effect to the outcome for india..

Cite the data as in real numbers we can review on your claimed effect to the outcome for india.. Seems to me I read somewhere that lockdowns failed?

Vaccine data I have doesnt show that, please cite your compliance data and outcome for india.

you said that already, please post your citations

Cite the data as in real numbers we can review on your claimed effect to the outcome for india


You didnt post not one verified claim. Looks to me like theres a very high probability you are the one most likely posting posting twaddle. We shall see in your next post.

covid data (that you claim is made up here)

 

Pot meet kettle

Been down this road many many many times in the past with members insisting I do all the hard yakka in citing to academic standard whilst they post unreferenced twaddle from the internet.

So - you first

Back your claims re India with academic level citations and I will back mine