Humans in Israel 400,000 Years Ago

Ouroboros is pretty neat as a symbol.

 

Floods leave a footprint of sediment.. There is NO global footprint.. there is however a massive one on the Euphrates river basin that dates to 2900 BC.

The whole business about Mt Ararat is a hoax by Ron Wyatt.

 

I know.. You can see why it was a symbol of fertility and rebirth.

As far as I know, the snake figures into three Bible stories..

The snake in the garden.... Dueling snake/staffs when Moses confronts Pharoah and the brass snake Moses created to protect the Israelites when they were wandering Sinai.

 

Good Lord, Frogger... Archeology is not antisemitic.. and the Israelis are NOT the center of the universe.

Read the article..

"The cave was uncovered in 2000 by Prof. Avi Gopher and Dr. Ran Barkai of TAU’s Institute of Archeology. Later, Prof.

Israel Hershkowitz of the Department of Anatomy and Anthropology at TAU’s Sackler School of Medicine and an international team of scientists performed a morphological analysis on the teeth found in the cave"

 

Floods do leave footprints, but perhaps we're misreading the footprint of a divinely caused flood. Remember, the genesis global flood was not caused by natural events. God caused it, and we're not privy to all the mechanisms He employed (both to cause it and end it). Could be been a simple kicking of the first domino, could be been thousands of kicks of strategic dominos. Miracles and science don't mix at all, and it doesn't surprise me that scientists with uniformitarian (miracles have never taken place) presuppositions don't recognize the footprints that are there. But I do believe some very smart creationists have pointed out some very good examples of footprints. I mean Everest has marine fossils for pete sake. Other mountains do as well.

The problem is not absence of footprints, but disagreement on what a footprint actually is.

 

Archeology is not anti-Semitic, but your posts almost always are.

 

The study was conducted by ISRAELI Jews. If you can't make a distinction between archelogy and anti-semitism, you have a problem. The world of science and archeology and geology won't shut down because you have a chip on your shoulder.

The cave was uncovered in 2000 by Prof. Avi Gopher and Dr. Ran Barkai of TAU’s Institute of Archeology. Later, Prof.

Israel Hershkowitz of the Department of Anatomy and Anthropology at TAU’s Sackler School of Medicine and an international team of scientists performed a morphological analysis on the teeth found in the cave

 

A flood footprint is a layer of sediment that can be measured by incremental core samples taken over a grid.

Mountains form due to plate tectonics. They are literally the result of the earth being pushed upwards and together, like creases in the earth's surface.

The Himalayas are still being pushed upwards at about 3 feet a year. Every competent geologist would expect to find marine fossils in limestone formations.

 

It is common knowledge that the remains of prehistoric people have been found in caves in the area so you have not posted any bombshell new information. It is also common knowledge that many of your posts have a distinct anti-semitic tinge to them.

 

Oy, please cover yourself. Your presuppositions are showing?



In fairness you completely ignored my post.

 

Then WHY are you on this thread?

I find the Natufian culture pretty interesting.. like Tepe Gobekli and Egyptian Inscriptions found a Tayma and Catalhoyuk in Anatolia.

If you are not interested go start a thread on Anti-semitism elsewhere. There is NO reason to inject Jews into every thread on Archeology or Religion or Ancient History.

 

Yeah, it's nothing like the "presupposition" of the existence of a divine being and the infallibility of a scripture.

 

You are correct. These are presuppositions I hold, and neither can be verified nor falsified by science. Nor can atheism and deism (your presuppositions). These must be hammered out in the philosophical arena first. And I must say, you guys don't fair too well there.

 

Is it your presupposition that all scientists are either atheists or deists?

Many scientists who are not literalists are Christians.. They just take the Bible as morality tale and teaching narrative rather than as science and history.

 

Occam's Razor basically destroys religion in any rational debate.

 

Methodologically, yes. They have to be, they have no choice. Science won't work apart from the presuppositions that laws are constant and unchanging. Even the most passionate theist must presuppose the absence of miraculous intervention in the particular area he's investigating. The moment he lets that go, he's entered the broader world of philosophy (which is fine, of course, and necessary at times).

This is true. Some even take the Resurrection to be metaphor. I think they're wrong.

 

I agree, it destroys the religion of atheism, which is loaded with irrational presuppositions, like infinite regression, acausality, indeterminism, etc.

Theism is the only rational choice for rational people. It takes much less blind faith to accept.

 

Your position does seem to be the fundamentalist view..

Should I assume that you have taught your children that Jonah sat in the belly of a fish for three days?

Or have you taught them the more important spiritual lesson of that tale?

 

Yep! My kid's believe in miracles. I even taught them that Jesus rose from the dead in 3 days! How appalling is that? You must be livid.

 

And your child is older than 8 years?

 

Yep, and already they're more rational than you.

Hopefully you haven't poisoned any of your kids with your atheism and anti-semitism.

 

My children are well educated and taught to look for the deeper meaning and the universal truth about God's love in Scripture.

They are also adults.

 

Then they've likely rejected your silly views. Namely that a loving God doesn't exist.

 

Of course He exists.. but not literally in the belly of a whale.

The story is much bigger than that.... Particularly if you understand the history of the Assyrian Empire.

 

So the Assyrian Empire proves miracles can't happen? Even Hume would blush at such an illogical argument. Can't wait to show my kids this arguments.

Your views against miracles are irrational and held together by blind faith.

Your posts are getting desperate. I'm going to have to move on.