Hunter Biden's opening statement from his recent deposition/Mod Warning

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Aside from your false characterization, You can't create a hypothetical and claim a double standard from the hypothetical, that's a kind of strawman argument.

    Besides, I don't think so. There has to be a real crime, to wit:

    Jared made millions by leveraging his position as Senior WH advisor to foreign policy, exploited connections acquired from his gig, got a $25,000,000 blood money score from MBS is corruption and abuse of power.

    You seem to forget one salient point: We are after real crimes.

    Paying off a porn star to hide the fact from the electorate is a crime.

    Pressuring state officials to toss out Biden electors to replace with fake electors involves a number of crimes.

    Mishandling of national defense docs, refusing to return them and admitting on TV that you unlawfully have them, justify it by saying the PRA allows it, (when it, in fact, does not) then instructed an underling to delete video evidence of the moving of them and then hiding docs from your lawyer is a crime, pertaining to Espionage, obstruction of justice. Conspiring with six co-conspirators in a scheme to delay the joint session of congress long enough to force the VP to throw the election to the house, as a premeditated scheme to retain power, is a crime. The list of these crimes are listed on both the GA and Wash DC and MAL indictments.

    Now, if Don Jr did as Hunter Biden did, there would be no crime there.

    We are after REAL crimes. NOT imaginary ones that might just be bad behavior.
     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you not realize that you haven't proven anything?
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Read the transcript. There is no crime.
    Process issues do not prove 'money laundering' or 'influence peddling'.
    Weiss could have charged Hunter years ago for the tax charges.

    Why did he wait so long?

    I'll tell you. He thought he'd find bigger crimes, maybe something on Joe, something that could give him brownie points for reeling in a big fish.

    Well, he found nothing. So, what does he do?

    He pulls out the old tax late filing so at least he's got something to show for his time. It's what one might call a consolation prize for the prosecution, an attempt to save face for spending the tax payers dime for 6 years on a private citizen who has no foreign or domestic policy impact.

    Note than Hunter was not charged with corruption, money laundering, or influence peddling, and these have been the allegations, all along.

    Amd FYI, it's not a crime to share profits with family members, noting that Joe Biden never received a nickel.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Read the transcript.
     
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    These nothing in the transcript that answers these questions.
    And you know that or you would have provided it
    Which is why you keep deflecting to it

    Failing to report income to the IRS is not a process issue.
    Its a federal felony
    Failing to report the FARA is not a process issue
    Its a felony
    Failing to register with the SEC for investment funds is not a process issue
    Its a felony

    You would think those are all learnable traits given the fact that Hunter has been indicted for Tax evasion.
    I guess you thought that was a process issue as well

    Is that the same Weiss that sat on Hunters felonies and refused to prosecute allowing the statute of limitations to run out?
    Weiss didn't know anything about the 20 accounts and you know this.
    And if he did he would have buried it.
    It was the bank investigators who found the accounts and the money laundering scheme.

    And FYI, It is when you launder 24 million from China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Romania, and Ukraine and hide the money through 20 shell accounts without reporting it to the IRS, SEC, and FARA and distribute it to 9 Biden family members.
    Do you know what money laundering is?
    Its the concealment of the origins of illegally obtained money, typically by means of transfers involving foreign banks or legitimate businesses.

    But you though if Hunter just simply states his business was legit then these are all just process issues?
    How did those process issues work out being indicted for Tax Evasion, Failure to file, and falsifying returns?
    Do tell.
     
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    Coming from the poster that claims money laundering is just process crimes, I'll take this with a grain of salt.
     
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    FACT: Hunter Biden took 24 million from 5 foreign nationals without notifying FARA
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)
    FACT: Hunter Biden washed it through 20 shell accounts
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)
    FACT: Hunter Biden failed to report the money to the IRS
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)
    FACT: Hunter Biden failed to report it to the SEC
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)
    FACT: Hunter Biden distributed the money to 9 Biden family members without reporting it to the IRS
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)
    FACT: Bank investigators found over 170 federal banking violations
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)

    Attempting to defraud the government is not a process issue
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)

    Not reporting revenue to the IRS and hiding the money to disperse it is money laundering
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)

    Then Joe shouldn't have lied about his meetings, phone calls, discussions, dinners, WH invites, and golfing with Hunters business associates.
    But its hilarious watching ole Joe change his stories over and over as the evidence piles up.
    And Hunter could put all this to bed simply by showing what product or service the Biden family provided to earn 24 million from foreign nationals.
    But he can't.
    And neither can you.
    Why? Because
    (illegal activity) (A Felony)

    The IRS disagrees with you. Don't they.

    Its hilarious watching you jump through all these hoops in your efforts to try and minimize all these federal crimes.
    And if were Don Jr instead of Hunter you would be blowing up the forums with thousands of post with thousands of theories.
    The bias and hypocrisy is just unimaginable
     
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  8. Condor060

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    You mean like the bank investigators who provided the 20 accounts with 24 million from Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Romania, and Ukraine that was dispersed to 9 Biden family members and not reported to the IRS or FARA?
    Like those guys?
     
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    Then it should be a simple task for Hunter since there was no influence peddling.
    What would any rational well educated legitimate businessman do in this situation that isn't guilty of influence peddling and subpoenaed to testify in front of a committee he knows is out to get his dad impeached?
    Simply show the services provided to receive the 24 million from 5 foreign nationals and slap all of it right out the door.

    Only leaves 3 possibilities

    1. Hunter and his attorneys are so ignorant they couldn't figure that out for themselves
    2. Hunter hates his dad and wants to see this committee continue to berate him
    3. Hunter was peddling influence and doesn't have any products or services he can provide to shut this down

    So are you telling us Hunter hates his dad and isn't sharing his information to shut down this committee when everything he did was legit?
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

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    Because your questions are irrelevant to the impeachment inquiry.
    While many individuals may miss tax deadlines or fail to file their taxes on time, the IRS does not typically prosecute every late filer or late tax payer. Instead, they often focus on more significant cases involving fraud, evasion, or deliberate non-compliance. Hunter has been charged, but the allegation has yet to be proven.

    Late filers may face penalties or interest charges, but criminal prosecution is relatively rare for those who unintentionally miss deadlines.
    All I can tell you is that Weiss has not charged Hunter with a FARA violation.
    I can find no direct evidence that Hunter Biden has been required to register anything with the SEC and failed to do so. Please substantiate this claim
    Tax evasion was never the crimes being alleged by republicans, Comer, et al, it was 'money laundering, influence peddling, neither of which he has been charged with.

    Tax evasion doesn't prove any of those allegations. Evasion has a lot to do with intent, because millions file late without intent to evade. So, that will have to be proven in court.
    You have no proof that Weiss did that. It could have just as well been that he made the decision not to prosecute. This kind of thing happens all the time.
    LLCs are not prima facie evidence of a crime.
    This idea that Weiss, a Republican, appointed by Barr, under Trump admin for three years, was in the tank for Hunter defies credulity.
    I'm really sick of your generalizations without evidence. Name names, post links. or I'm just going to ignore you.

    'money laundering' has been not charged by Weiss.
    Clearly you do not know what money laundering is, it has to be earned illegally.

    There is no evidence the funds were illegally earned. Failure to FARA doesn't equal 'illegally earned'. By illegal, it means an crime operation, like prostitution, scam operations, racketeering, that sort of thing.

    There is where your argument falters.

    Just because there were shell accounts involved does not equal money laundering.

    Concealing money might equal tax evasion, but if you want to allege 'money laundering' you have to prove the funds were illegally obtained, and you haven't done that.
    Clearly you do not know what money laundering is.

    You first have to prove the money was earned illegally.

    You have not done that.
    All that is relevant are two things:

    1. Did Hunter commit money laundering? No evidence has been produced.

    2. Did Hunter biden commit 'influence peddling'. No evidence.

    3. Did Hunter commit tax evasion? He's been charged, but the verdict hasn't been obtained.

    But the overriding fact is the following:

    None of the above implicates Joe Biden.

    And frankly, I don't give a damn about Hunter, I think he's a nice guy, and nice guys sometimes get involved with tax issues, I think the right's characterizations is wrong, petty, and political has hell, but Joe Biden is the candidate, not Hunter.

    And on that score,. you have failed miserably to prove any wrongdoing.
     
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    Read the transcript.
     
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    1. HB has not been charged with FARA
    2. Your statement does not prove money laundering on it's face.
    3. Your statement is not substantiated. Please give page and line citations from the transcript.
    4 HB has been charged on taxes. No verdict yet.
     
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    I never said money laundering is a process crime.

    You can't refute the post, your comment is a cop out.
     
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    FALSE: He did not 'take', he earned. No evidence of 'take'.
    FALSE: The activity is legal. Failure to file as FARA doesn't make the activity legal. The failure to register is a separate act. So your claim is false. Not to mention he wasn't charged for FARA.
    FALSE Money laundering predicates illegal activity. No evidence has been provided.
    FALSE, please produce evidence of SEC filing requirements.
    He's been charged. The verdict hasn't been given.
    FALSE: SARs do not equal violations let alone 'felonies'.
    Hiding legally earned money could be tax evasion, but it, by itself, doesn't equal money laundering because you have to prove the money was earned illegally. You are confused,. a failure to register as FARA doesn't mean the money wasn't illegally earned. Do you not see this?

    I've already explained this to you,. but you do not seem to be able to grasp it.
    Please substantiate this claim.
    You haven't proven squat.

    You want to know what the service was? Read the damn transcript, it's there.

    Clearly, you haven't read it.
     
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    So Hunter hates his dad and wants this to continue
    Instead of providing the committee the products or services he legally provided to shut this down
    Got it
     
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    You haven't proven squat.

    Got it.

    Read the transcript.
     
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    Let us know when you have anything but your own theories.
    The evidence speaks for itself.

    The Oversight Committee obtained access to the suspicious activity reports generated by 6 banks on the Biden family foreign or high-dollars transactions. None of these accounts are registered with FARA.

    The Oversight Committee issued six subpoenas to obtain bank records for Biden family associates. Through these financial records, the Oversight Committee has identified over 20 shell companies and uncovered how the Bidens raked in over $24 million dollars from foreign nationals
    (China, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, and Kazakhstan,)

    Subpoenas located here
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Subpoenas.pdf

    Bank records located here
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Bank-Records-Memo-3.16.23.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Bank-Memorandum-5.10.23.pdf
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf

    Your theories of what crimes are and the hoops you jump through are laughable.

    Either Hunter and Joe were involved in selling influence
    Or Hunter hates his dad so much he refuses to provide the services and products he provided legally to stop all of this.
     
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    The committee have proven the accounts, the money, and the transfers exist from 5 foreign nationals.
    So Hunter must really hate his dad to not put an end to all this with his legitimate business records proving all this was legal and not influence peddling..
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    "FALSE Money laundering predicates illegal activity. No evidence has been provided."

    Money laundering has been provided.... and more than one time.... and with bank account info.
     
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    :roflol:
    1) I seriously DOUBT that "Hunter must really hate his dad"...
    2) Nothing has been proven which directly implicates Joe
     
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    NO. It hasn't.
    And nothing has been proven.
     
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    We have all read it.
    Now you provide the part where Hunter destroys the committee with his provision of products and services he provided to get 24 million from Russia, China, Kazakhstan, Romania, and Ukraine and his FARA filings before he distributed it to 9 Biden family members.
    I'll wait while you find that for us.
     
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    Joe Biden does not have to receive money to be involved in the selling of the Biden brand and money laundering and bribery. We have more than one instances where there is not one but different testimonies determining that..
     
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    Yep..... and more than once... with the bank account transactions..
     
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    No evidence.
     

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