Hunter Biden's opening statement from his recent deposition/Mod Warning

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Let's go over it one more time...
    bribery 101...... Joe does not need to get any money as long as his family is receiving money to be involved in a bribe ... then they can loan $millions through 20 empty shell companies.... The last person you will see mentioned in any of it will be the ring leader...

    The federal bribery statute states, “whoever, being a public official or person selected to be a public official, directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for being influenced in the performance of any official act” commits bribery.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201

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    Ok — then show where Joe Biden directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally or for any other person or entity, in return for being influenced in the performance of any official act” commits bribery

    You have two things to prove here, what official act did Joe Biden preform and what did he agree to accept or receive?

    The most important item here is saying he did something — what did he do? What policy did he implement or change?
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    interesting Hunter said he did not remember a lunch at the Four Seasons in D.C.

    Hunter Biden said he did not remember a lunch at the Four Seasons in D.C. with CEFC officials and his dad. Rob Walker testified that weeks before Hunter Biden and his business partners received $3 million from CEFC, Hunter Biden hosted a lunch that Walker attended at the Four Seasons where his dad dropped by and addressed the CEFC officials for 10 minutes.

    https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1763331613352452488
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Proven... the "policy did he implement or change"... Elena (Yelena) Baturina has been twice overlook when Joe was handing out Russian sanctions...

    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Devon-Archer-Transcript.pdf
    https://imgur.com/2x6dQ2S

    Joe Biden was at the business dinners with Elena (Yelena) Baturina, the lady that shelled out $3.5 million to Hunter and then was not sanctioned when all the other Russians were sanctioned... Which blows Joe Biden's "I don't know nuttin bout nuttin" out of the water...
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    and the receipt
    https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Third-Bank-Records-Memorandum_Redacted.pdf
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hunter or no Biden that I am aware of was involved in Rosemont Seneca Bohai. Do you have something showing him receiving said funds?

    So you are saying that because a Billionaire gave money to an organization that has one of the same founders of another organization that Hunter was involved with a decade ago but no money is traced back to Hunter, much less Joe, is why this woman who no longer lives in Russia was not sanctioned?

    Really?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe he went to the four seasons landscaping like the trump team did lol

    It’s strange how y’all keep saying Hunter did this and Hunter did that while acting like Joe was the one doing it
     
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    Regardless of how you want to spin it, money going to the Biden family implicates Joe Biden. Joe still indirectly benefits from it. For example, I frequently help out members of the family. I let them know I do not expect them to pay me back. It is just what families do. Money exchanges hands with no real record of why.
     
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    Nothing you've presented proves your allegation.

    Nothing you've presented proves Joe Biden committed crimes. The path of reasoning you've thus far provided has already been refuted.


    I've already explain WHY your documents do not prove wrongdoing.

    You've not offered a merit worthy counter to my explanations.

    Pointing to documents is an impotent argument.

    You're just repeating yourself.

    Fail.
     
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    Hunter Biden made an interesting statement which should arouse a few suspicions. He said Joe Biden was the "Big Guy" in his notebook. However, he said he was under the influence of drugs at the time and it was not true. He was getting paid big money from the Ukrainians at the time, in spite of the fact that his abilities to make rational decisions was impaired by drugs. Makes you wonder about all the claims about how great a business man he was. It is doubtful that his ability to conduct business was the reason for his employment. You have to wonder what the Ukrainian energy company was getting in return for Hunter's drug clouded presence.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    FALSE. Cite the law that is broken.
    Hunter Biden cannot escape his famous name.

    Whether or not his father 'called in on the speaker phone' or 'appeared a lunches' doesn't change this fact.

    Devon Archer already testified exonerating Joe.

    It's not a crime to benefit from that fame.

    It's not 'influence' to benefit from that fame.

    It would only be influence if Joe gave out political favors, which he has not.

    Learn what crimes are, learn what 'proof' is, learn what 'implication' means.

    Clearly you do not understand these simple concepts.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ahh.. ' in return for being influenced'

    Influence would be a political favor of some kind. Now then......

    There is no evidence Joe Biden provided any political favors to any of Hunter's associates or siblings in exchange for money to himself, or his siblings.

    Remember this fact, Hunter cannot escape his famous surname, or that he is the son of a famous person, so this fact does not constitute 'influence', nor does reminding his associates of the fact (By joe's presence) constitute it, either.

    In other words, Joe's fame as it might benefit Hunter is inadvertent and unavoidable fact. If it were a crime then thousands of sons and daughters of politicians and leaders of society would have to be prosecuted, and that is absurd. Applying the technique of 'reductio ad absurdum' reveals the absurdity of your logic.

    Epic fail.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    This narrative by the right wing has been debunked many times. Please keep up. There were over 50 Russian Oligarchs not on the sanctions list, and she was but one. So, there is no 'overlook' for money, nor, as it is explained below, did any money from her go to Hunter or Joe.

    Rosemont Seneca Bohai and Rosemont Seneca Thorton were not Hunter Biden's accounts, they belonged to Devon Archer, that they were distinct from 'Rosemont Seneca Partners" that Hunter Biden was not privy to any activity occurring in those accounts, and these distinctions and facts were explicitly explained and PROVEN in the transcript (given the fact that only Devon, and NOT Hunter, was signatory on the establishing documents). Please review the transcript, starting at page 61, for facts. And quit pushing your falsehoods.

    Epic fail.
     
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    They sure were involved in Rosemont Seneca... you seem to think when they throw up a road block you don't look any further

    Funny he was not involved in Bohai... when his emails show otherwise

    https://bidenreport.com/#p=81
    https://bidenlaptopemails.com/email.php?id=20140309-134800_117861

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    "appears to be" yeah,. Comer has his facts unconfirmed and he admits it.

    "Rosemont Seneca Partners" was Hunter's.

    Rosemont Seneca Bohai, and Rosemont Seneca Thorton were Devon Archer accounts, as proven by the signatories on the establishing documents entered into evidence in the hearing, accounts to which Hunter had no control over, nor privy to finance traffic in those accounts. .

    Please get your facts straight, and do your homework.
     
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    Those are allegations, not facts. THe allegations have been debunked in the deposition. Please get your facts straight and quit pushing false narratives.
     
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    https://bidenreport.com/#p=81

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    Prove them wrong. None of them have been debunked... You can't show anything to back up your claim ...
    Feel free to show the DOJ investigations into any of it... let's see what you have @Patricio Da Silva, beside meaningless words.
     
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    Did it occur to you he is now? So Joe was not in office in 2014? It seems the "ha" is on you...
     
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    I say it is just fine if Hunter Biden and family profited off uncle Joe’s brand.

    From reports Biden family has received anywhere from $30 -$50 million

    all families of presidents benefit from the presidency in one was or another

    ..in Biden’ case the one that benefits the most is hunters kid with a Arkansas stripper. The mom/stripper is knocking down $250k a year and is off the pole

    trumps kids and in-laws certainly benefitted
    The secret service trumps kids enjoyed was a little pricey .and don’t forget

    despite have never run a hedge fund or having any experience in investments

    Jarod received $2 Billion from one country alone

    So to put it in perspective

    Hunter and his family got about $50 million from foreign countries for no apparent reason

    Jarod got $2 Billion from one country alone

    Jarod is knocking down in one year more than Bidens entire lifetime from foreign entities

    it is a strange world we live
     
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    SARs are not prima facie evidence of a crime. They are only the basis for inquiry, that's it, just as an FD 1023 is a basis for inquiry.

    Moreover, Bohai and Thorton were Devon's, not Hunter's.
     
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    These allegations are in the past, not for activities while Joe was in office.

    Besides, I've already debunked your allegations.
     
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    Rosemont Seneca Bohai was not just Devon's... welcome to the money laundering world...

    Try to keep up... if you are sticking your nose in
    Being it has already been explained by Comer
    but you aren't going to read it anyway

    https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
    https://oversight.house.gov/release...e-bidens-from-russia-kazakhstan-and-ukraine/

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    2014... and was for activities while Joe was in office.
     
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    Great... show us the "inquiry" by the IRS or DOJ into the 170 plus SARs... man up and admit your wrong...
    you claim to debunk but show nothing of the debunking.... let's see what you have.... credible sources please... not some fake left MSM using unverified unnamed anonymous sources...
     

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