I always laugh when Christians try to defend the brutal OT laws

I always hear them say stuff like, "well, things were different back then. It was brutal, so they had different laws." Yeah, it's brutal when your god is commanding you to drag children out into the street and stone them to death. It's brutal when your god commands you to commit genocide, slaughtering every man, woman, child, and animal. Or slaughtering everyone except the virgin girls who are to be kidnapped and forced into marriage and sex. It's brutal when your god commands you to enslave people or slaughter them all.

How does this argument make any sense? It's ridiculous. That's a crazy, nonsensical justification of those brutal laws.

 

so you believe in an absolute truth?

 

WTF do NFL Overtime regulations have to do with religion???

They are both practiced mainly on Sunday.

So what???

 

And yet you have no good alternatives to the Ten Commandments.

 

wtf?

Huh?

I have GREAT alternatives to the Ten, but I have no idea what that has to do with my thread. 3 responses and none of them make any sense at all. This is the WORST forum for any kind of mildly stimulating religious conversation.

 

Well, when Christians find the OT inconvenient, they tend to pull the "Christians are not bound by the OT law" card. But they still quote the OT laws when condemning gay marriage. and other things they oppose.

 

Yeah, but I'm not talking about cherry picking. I'm just talking about the justification they give for them existing at some point in time.

 

well do you?

 

1. Trust good character more than promises.
2. Do not speak falsely.
3. Do good things.
4. Do not be hasty in making friends, but do not abandon them once made.
5. Learn to obey before you command.
6. When giving advice, do not recommend what is most pleasing, but what is most useful.
7. Make reason your supreme commander.
8. Do not associate with people who do bad things.
9. Honor the gods.
10. Have regard for your parents.

By Solon the lawmaker

 

Christians will pick the bones out of the Bible to suit their own agenda.

 

But what exactly is your question? All I read is a derisive rant that mocks....with a heavy dose of anger behind it. I agree that this is the worst TITLE - not the forum, the forum is fine - of all titles in a religious forum....if the goal is for "stimulating conversation."

The word "stimulating" takes on a whole new meaning. It means, WHACK! Kapow! That's stimulating, alright.

The title does not suggest any aim at conversation at all - it's more like, confrontation, like this....

 

Funny that the OP is fixated on Christians here, and not the people to whom these laws applied and still apply: the Jews. But I guess since the Jews have been persecuted at times, we can't say anything about them (and of course the Christians have NEVER been persecuted).

 

My question was incredibly straight forward. Did you not read my entire post? "How does this argument make any sense?"

So, basically, you have no rationalization for the aforementioned argument.

 

And I see you have no rationalization for not directing this line of questioning to those for whom it applies. The laws of Moses, the OT makes clear, were only for the Hebrews. Why don't you ask them?

 

Fifthofnovember has a point! As far as I know, the Jews still worship that same God. Ask them!

Furthermore, if you understand the Bible (OT), and the concept of God/Creator...you won't have to ask that silly question.

 

No, we quote Jesus Christ.

 

Not all Christians read the Bible nor did Bible Study. I was born a Christian and yet just took the Bible for granted. I never opened it until I re-discovered Jesus Christ. Therefore I'm not surprised that some Christians wouldn't know how to answer that. A lot of Christians tend to focus more on the New Testament.

So I guess you asked the wrong people. You should talk to a pastor.

 

So, don't ask average Christians because they don't even bother to read their Bible. Got it. Then maybe they should stop opening their mouth and making up ridiculous arguments if they haven't even bothered to read the Bible.

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Because they're not the ones making the argument. The fact that you guys want it passed off to someone else just shows you have no answer.

If it's so silly, why can't you answer it?

 

Or, as far as homosexuality is concerned, Paul. Christians need not rely on the OT for things confirmed in the New.

 

wow. says it all, really.

 

What argument? That the OT no longer applies? No, Jews don't say that. Or are you saying they do not defend OT law? Wrong again, they are the ones who do. So, again, I direct you to the proper people.

Maybe it's because we are NOT the ones making the argument. But maybe there are some Christians out there who do, as you suggest, "defend brutal OT laws". If so, it appears none have viewed or responded to your thread as of yet.

 

Where do the ten prohibit rape?

Oops!

 

Hey, those tablets are heavy. Moses couldn't carry a big rock down a mountain for every single thing people could think of to do wrong.

 

Only 3 of the 10 make good secular laws. In fact, the other 7 are blatantly Unconstitutional.

 

It's because those Christians believe that everything God did was morally just, even if deep down they know those actions were unjust. They don't want God to revoke their meal ticket to heaven, so they submit and refuse to question his authority.