I always laugh when Christians try to defend the brutal OT laws

Society made laws that claims it. But usually humans with rights, ie, not animals, although that is changing.

 

I don't know how many. It is not stated, just like the bible, only the words "in our image" is used.
I know it was God as he is the God of the world.

I don't want to pursue this, only pointing out my statement is just as valid as your statement.

 

The misunderstanding is not mine. I am not trying to force you. You are a free moral agent after all, and these are things you either accept or reject, there is no middle ground.

 

No. The Qur'an is not the word of God, though God is the subject, it is contrary to the real word of God. Mohammad is a false prophet, and Allah is a false God.

 

so you don't want to research yourself? The apologetics website contain no more or less than I would present. I would feel disingenious, if I presented an arguement as my own when I clearly got it out of a book, or website. Whats a coput is not researching it for yourself. If there is an issue, then we can break it down, but just know that I'll probably present no more than whats on that website or in one of my books, so if you've got something present it. I'm not going to start a thread on a subject as broadly based as apologetics, but if you have some issue, we can discuss.

 

I've done a lot of research. You're assuming quite a bit. You're not fooling anyone. You made a large claim and are now looking for excuses to not back it up with a single bit of evidence. Typical. What a great way to handle discussions. Make a huge claim, and when called out on it, just say there's no point in discussing it, paste a couple of links, and be on your way. Here, let me try:

You're wrong. The Bible is incredibly flawed. It would be pointless for me to go into detail, so I suggest you just read this book. After all, it's not like these forums are for discussing things. They're for posting links to other websites to prove your point.

http://www.amazon.com/Misquoting-Jesus-Story-Behind-Changed/dp/0060859512

 

and you know this how? because your fairy book said so?
muslims say the same about your boy, because their book said so.
arm wrestle? toss a coin?

 

The victory is already won. Truth is truth because the living God said so. Lie is lie because the living God said so.

 

Blindly following an idealology turns you into a sheep. If you want to be a sheep, that's your choice.

 

In fairness to Elijah, he has stated that it doesn't matter what he found, what is true or what is false, his ideas are fixed. They will never change, no matter what. There really isn't any point in a discussion with him, because the only things he will give gravitas to are things that seek to support what he already believes, so a link to apologetics is simply shorthand for what he can accept.
He is simply being honest about his refusal to consider anything that might give a reasonable student pause. Many true believers insist they are being very reasonable. At least Elijah has previously told us that reasonableness is irrelevant. His die has been cast, regardless of what he might find.
He's just saving you some time.

 

Actually Muslims honour Jesus as a great prophet. The Qu'ran is full of praise for Him. Which is probably one of the reasons why - in spite of all theological differences that set us apart - l and my Muslim friends get along just fine. No need for arm wrestling whatsoever. Never left of course might beg to differ, but I should hope that he's just as unrepresentative for the whole of Christianity as Bin Laden was unrepresentative for the whole of Islam.

 

we do not need blasphemy laws, we have a alternative justice system

 

What is the one truth?

 

I with full knowledge and absolute certainty follow Jesus Christ without reservation because he is who he says he is. That is my choice. He is the door to the sheep fold, he keeps it and those who are in it a saved.

 

Jesus Christ and his blood bought salvation. John 3:16.

 

But what if there is no need for "salvation"?

 

Well, that says it all.

 

No,,, he is who other people say he is. There is a difference.

 

There is. Other wise God would not have provided a way for salvation to be given.

 

Where did you hear that? The Gospel of John is replete with examples of his declaring who he is. And those declarations are also foretold in prophecy, he is God. That is the difference.

 

I knew if we kept at it long enough we'd agree. You're right, I will stand on scripture, will defend scripture at all costs, and follow it blindly. If that somehow makes me unreasonable, or closeminded, I can live with it. I will look at all data and consider it, and even reconcile whether I've interpreted scripture wrong, but in the end God and scripture will always be right, although my interpretation may not always be.

 

That's the circular track dance. All of the points are imaginary. An imaginary character named "God" does something but there's no evidence that he exists. Then a claim is made that man needs saving so the imaginary God develops a plan to do save man. And so it goes item after item but it's all based on speculation and imagination.

 

So you don't get it. But that is on purpose. Too bad. Whats a brother to do, I tried.