I am proof that Covid is real

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  1. Navy Corpsman

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    Yes, if the person/s was brainwashed enough; and the "STOOGES" in government and their "hand-picked" mouth pieces repeatedly convinced them that wearing the flawed seat belts still worked, then the brainwashed imbeciles would never question the FACT that the flawed seat belts really don't work.

    They would still believe in the "illusion" that the flawed seat belts still worked as it's a "psychological event of comfort" because the government told them that when they clicked themselves in every time they got into the seat and drove their car, they were safe.
     
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    In the case of my niece and daughter they would have died. Oh I get you Ron!
     
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    At no time did anyone state the vaccine would prevent you from getting Covid 19 which is what you are claiming so don't infer or claim or suggest anyone did. No one did.

    Next your entire argument that because the vaccine can not be guaranteed to stop you from getting Covid 19 it is a pile of garbage makes no rational or common sense when determining its degree of usefulness in helping reduce the risks associated with its spread.

    You mistake your need to want a vaccine to give you 100% immunity as being the sole measure to define a vaccine's use as a risk management tool.

    It is not and has never been the measures or criteria used.

    For communicable diseases like COVID-19, which are spread from one person to the next, a person’s risk is affected by other people’s behaviors. So in regards to that context, NOT your need to be 100% immune, and for that matter with any communicable disease not just Covid 19, the risks that are reduced by taking vaccines helps reduce the spread of the disease from one person to the next and so reduce the chance it is passed on to someone who can't take the vaccine and could die from the communicable disease.

    So we are talking about a person’s risk to be exposed to the disease being reduced not just you and want you want.

    We are talking about using risk management through vaccines to otherwise offsert and prevent or reducebehaviour of people that can go on to negatively impact on others-NOT whether you can be guaranateed 100% immunity.

    Risk management focuses on helping us make choices to engage in safety practices, such as wearing masks, social distancing, taking vaccines, washing our hands, taking vaccines that all can help reduce the impact on the degree of risk of exposure.

    From your words and the words of other anti vaxers on this thread its clear you advance a theory that can be summarized as follows-"phack everyone else, what's in it for me".

    That is an approach called self-entitlement and I would argue one might expect that from teenagers, people with anti social personalities, sociopaths, narcissists, but hopefully the majority of us as we mature and develop a social conscience evolve past our own egos and come to learn our actions impact on not just ourselves but others.

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/ecpe/using-risk-analysis-in-covid-19/
     
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  4. Peter the Roman

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    I will start with the end:
    And you and your long post talking about alleged HIV?

    I only said HIV existence is not proven, because necessary steps must be followed to demonstrate their existence, and that maybe it's the same case with any other alleged virus (i.e. includes coronaviruses).

    Did I say anything about Duesberg? Duesberg and the Perth Group have opposite views on the subject. More information here:

    http://www.tig.org.za/Perth_Group_response_to_Fabio_Franchi.htm

    At present there are three main theories in regard to the cause of AIDS. The three theories are:
    1. HIV.
    2. Drugs ( passenger virus)
    3. Oxidative (oxidative agents, mainly drugs and semen). There is no evidence which proves the existence of HIV.

    You could read the next debate to see they have not been debunked. The debate was finally closed because the Perth Group was winning.

    http://bmj.rethinkers.net/bmj_debate.html

    (search "Eleopulos,Biophysicist" to find Perth Group's responses)


    The rest of your post shows that you know very little about them and what they assert. You can start with this blog of mine:

    https://hiv-probably-does-not-exist.blogspot.com/

    Note: because English is not my mother tongue there may be gramatical mistakes on that blog, but I think is fully understandable and gives you an acceptable first impression and guide.
     
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    That search gives 0 results, my excuses.

    Search "David Causer" better.
     
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    The so called vaccines are lies lies lies just as all of the Covid is.

    The evil Gubmint destroyed lives,, busiinesses, set children back a couple yrs...let's see what else??????
     
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    Did you died?

    Noone denied that covid wasn't real but all you've said is "I got covid and I believe that if I didn't have the vaccine it would have been worse"

    "You believe..."

    But you don't really know. Luckily I can see statistics on this virus that tells me what the exact percentages are of those who fall seriously ill from the omicron variant.

    So do you have anything to add beyond your personal opinions?
     
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    It's probably not fake and neither are colds, flues like seasonal, you can do your own healing and PREVENTION, work on your own immune syestem, you don't sound like a leader in my books...a great follower....
     
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    Hey Tough Talk, what you have you done for Yourself besides wearing a useless mask? If you think your gubmint cares about you and wants you well, think again long and hard, they want as many sick as possible so they can plow them full of their highpriced toxic drugs.....and so many will die from the legal drugs they push down people's throats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They NEED more and more Sheep....
     
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    This is an anonymous forum. You can't even prove that you exist.
     
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    Why would they have died? Cardiopulmonary conditions?
     
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    I just heard a program and they were discussing the Damar Hamlin heart issue and how he just about died, 24 yr old healthy man and went on to talk about a 30%+ Increase in deaths of young men from heart issues and all since covid....all the shots are causing these increased deaths. I FIRMLY believe this. And Damar is being tight liped as he wants to stay in good terms with NFL....and doesn't want to ruffel their feathers, they forced all the young men to do the shots....shots of near death for some and death for some.
     
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    you mean be tested, so they could quarantine vs giving it to everyone else?
     
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    According to the anti covid anti vaccine one and his pic, cancer is not an outcome
     
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    Pretty much the entire NFL, players etc, had to get the shot. 1 guy had an incident out of several thousands.
    How's that close to 30%?
    If it was 30%, 22 players on the field on every play, 6.6 players would have an incident if 30% was accurate.

    So, it's BS on your post.
     
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    What are the outcomes???? More and more are cropping up daily aroud the world...

    To trust the Govt, what Fools...

    So you took them dairyair, you gotta defend them and your c hoice...
     
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    Yes - what are the outcomes?
    Lots of hints and claims no data
     
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    I had what was presumed to be the Omricon version - highly contagious, but relatively mild. It took 24 days to test clean even though I felt fine after a week or so.
    I did have a later wave of very mild but identifiable symptoms as if the virus wanted to walk through my body one more time, but on tip toes. When I mentioned that to the Dr, he said they have been hearing that.
    Sorry you are having such a rough time.
     
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    Are you familiar with the strawman fallacy?

    How about the placebo effect?

    You are aware that sometimes those basic Covid tests will sometimes give a positive result to certain cold/flu viruses that are not Covid?
     
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    This is misinformation.

    BS stories about the vaccine causing Damar to experience cardiac arrest appeared a few hours after his collapse. So some random antivaxxers had the knowledge to make a diagnosis prior to any medical assessments being completed?

    Myocarditis has been diagnosed in an extremely small number of young men who had the vaccine and the majority of cases resolved quickly with very mild symptoms. If somebody were to have a heart attack after developing myocarditis they would have symptoms like chest pain, fatigue, abnormal heart rhythms, and shortness of breath. If he had myocarditis that was severe enough to cause a heart attack, he would have been too ill even to start the game.

    Can you even prove he was vaccinated because only 95% of all players in the National Football League were vaccinated against COVID-19. If vaccinated it would be over a year ago. There was no mention of any boosters. Before you provide unfounded biased misinformation look at some real numbers. Among more than 123 million people who received COVID-19 shots, 131 cases of myocarditis have been detected. Most of those cases involved adolescent and young adult males, and NONE of them died. Myocarditis is also much more common than people think. You can get myocarditis from the flu and even the common cold and the damage caused may not show up for years. Myocarditis is more commonly seen with young males as a complication of having covid itself.

    Damar was hit with a violent collision prior to going down on the field. It’s much more likely that Damar suffered from commotio cordis, where the chest takes a blow at a specific time in the heart’s rhythm and results in cardiac arrest. If he had a heart attack caused by myocarditis he would have been exhibiting chest pain and respiratory distress prior to the game. There have been sudden deaths in young athletes from sudden blows to the heart at the wrong moment for decades prior to covid.

    There has not been a 30% increase in deaths from heart issues since covid. That’s a lie. Stop posting lies and misinformation.
     
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    Link please or it’s misinformation.
     
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    No it's not. Whether she provides a link or not does not change the reality of the information. It just means that you'll go " nuh uhh".

    And half the time around here when a link is provided that says something that the person doesn't want to hear then they just go after the source of the information as a form of dismissal.
     
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    Be sure and go take all the vaccines you possibly can. Big pharma needs unpaid guinea pigs. And don't forget your boosters.
     
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    https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download

    Here's the PDF link above.

    From Page 3 of the CDC/FDA very own "CYA" documents (and on their very own government web site) where they clearly state in Page 3 that their PCR tests are nothing but "RIGGED" bullshit.

    They specifically tell you that "Positive results" are indicative----> [serving as a sign or indication of something] of active infection of SARS-CoV-2 but do not rule out bacterial infections or co-infection with other viruses. The "agent" detected may not be the definite cause of disease.

    And on their very same document from Page 40 "they" readily admit that they never, ever had their equally FAKED viron in their World Premier Lab because it wasn't available---> LOL so they simply grabbed some **** of their shelves and threw it all together to concoct some assays that "they" designed from characterized stocks for detection to mimic clinical specimens.

    The key phrase there is: "Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available"

    Every object that exists can be quantified, which is to say, measured. The use of the term "quantified" in that phrase means: the CDC has no virus, because it is unavailable. THE CDC HAS NO VIRUS LOL

    A further tip-off is the use of the word "isolates" This means NO ISOLATED VIRUS IS AVAILABLE.

    Another way to put it: NO ONE HAS AN ISOLATED SPECIMEN OF THE COVID-19 VIRUS. Not even the CDC-----> LOL

    As if this were not enough of a revelation to shock the world, the CDC goes on to say they are presenting a diagnostic PCR test to detect the virus-that-hasn’t-been-isolated…and the test is looking for RNA which is PRESUMED to come from the virus that hasn’t been proved to exist.

    But in July, of 2021, the CDC is saying in their very own document that no virus is available. I guess that means trucks were not available to bring the virus from that lab to the CDC. The trucks were out of gas. It was raining. The bridge was washed out. The trucks were in the shop. Joe, the driver, couldn’t find his mask, and he didn’t want to leave home without it…

    Science is not assumptions.

    The pandemic is a fraud, down to the root of the poisonous tree.






    https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
     
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