"I challenge anyone..." said Syrian Foreign Minister

what i dont understand is that sain gas is a colorless and odorless liquid..our president has said that a white powder was seen on the victims..and so did kerry...this cant be right..maybe it was something else but it is not sarin..

 

I guess the culprit was the Assad regime,
because the other side's stock was intercepted in Turkey.

 

who sent the rebels the chemical weapons, thru turkey?

 

So you are aware that Israel is oppressing human beings?

You can just say it to us and yourself. Then you can hear from YOURSELF, why i hate israel; oppression!

Actually the 'hater' is you. I dont point at 'jews' as the reason. The moron creates that kind of crap, based on bigotry and lack of personal responsibility.

I didnt.

You're the one that has no compassion for the 70 million that died in ww2. Only a bigot is focused on the minority and could care less of the rest.

it's for oppressing people and in the current form, for even shooting phosphorus weapons at the civilians. I think the 1 style that you keep referencing, is from that 1 side of 1 war, versus having any compassion for others. Do you actually think that concentration camp is ONLY defined by ww2?

What book makes jerusalem israel's 'eternal capital'?

Go ahead, you post up which fairytale that you accept as true.

So stop denying that israel was born of terrorist, terrorism and oppression, because it started over 70 yrs ago and is still happening, even today.

There is no denying that israel is a secular oppressive state that was born of ethnic cleansing and genocide. Losers deny facts.

no. I dont support israel (by choice)

thank you. I am glad that you see honesty showing itself.

I have said more than once, israel must back up, get out of the lands that aint theirs, release gaza from the fenced in enclosure, pay reparations and have the yahoos to admit what is wrong and what is real. I have posted my answers over and over.
You make comments like jerusalem is israel's 'eternal capital' and it aint the capital, even now. Tel aviv has always been the capital and 'the world' agrees, since jerusalem is set, per 'the world' to be a historically religious city, with no 'country' having a right over another.

It is what 'equality' is about, as I suggest but you prefer to sustain the bias. Why? Why would you go against humanity for a belief?

it's a unilateral fight in which only one side has the ability to defend itself. So by common sense, the bad guys with phosphorus weapons and THE existing concentration camp that they hold, must take the intial steps and back up.

ie.... even the US has been telling israel to back up (from west bank etc etc etc etc etc)

i can see that you dont use integrity, honesty, compassion and personal responsibility before making a choice. You use 'eternal capital' as your foundation of choice.

If they had a nuclear strategy, that eternal capital crap, would not be what people consider important before siding with bigots

Who?

Who is that? Is that someone in the 'eternal capital'?

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yes, amazingly enough occupation is oppression. Seems palestinians and virulent anti-zionists haven't yet made the connection.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

I guess the concept of implication escapes you.

that is simply a lie. you can't find a single post of mine that even implies such a salacious accusation.

No, it is not only defined by ww2. It was actually defined in the boer war. You should educate yourself before using term you do not truly comprehend.

You will find if you read any history book, that Jersualem was the capital of Israel some couple of millennia ago.
And what part of "ridiculous claim" do you not understand?

Yep, jewish terrorists, arab terrorists, jewish terrorism, arab terrorism, jewish oppression, arab oppression. Jeez it makes you wonder why people lie to each other, doesn't it?

Of course Israel was born of violence. Unfortunately for the arabs, they gambled and lost. But perhaps one day you will stop denying facts and attain some balance in understanding the history of the conflict.

Honesty and truth are two distinctly seperate concepts. Pick up a dictionary. I don't dispute facts, I dispute what you believe to be honesty and I perceive as extremely biased interpretation. You might want to examine another concept called "interpretation of facts" - millions of people make careers out that one.

But those aren't practicable solutions. Again, you offer simplistic unrealistic "solutions" that are entirely unilateral. This demonstrates considerable political niaivety and/or extreme bias.

I never made that comment. it seems your bias colours your comprehension.

What is equality all about? Interesting that you think you speak for humanity. What am I going against?

A unilateral fight? You make a statement like that followed by invoking common sense?

Yes, I agree. Israel should stop annexation of the west bank.

I hear "laser vision" can clear up a lot of eyesight problems. Even serious ones like you appear to be experiencing.

Can you put that in english please?

You don't know who Jehovah is? interesting.

.[/QUOTE]

 

Ask Putin.

 

Are you losing it?

Yes the Israelis occupation is oppression and it IS THE PALESTINIANs, that DO KNOW this and the MORONS, dont.

There, i fixed it for you!

no need to say thanx or call me brilliant, again



I guess the concept of implication escapes you. (i borrowed that so you can see how you have messed up)

which war defined the word semitic as a language versus a 'people'? I want to know why you use that word, without any comprehension of what it means? I know what 'concentration' mean and 'camp'. Gaza is a concentration of uprooted refugees, living in camp gaza.

israel never existed before 48' with any capital. They didnt have jerusalem in 48' either, so eternal is fricken 'stupid'.
Mary Poppins flies with an umbrella, in a story, that is found in our history, does that mean she is eternally flying.

a rediculous claim that 'jerusalem' IS the "eternal capital" of a state that never existed before 48' is more than just rediculous, it's stupid!

are how israel was born.

At least you admit, that violence is how israel was created. Must be because they are 'holy' and chosen ones, right?

What is funny, is they dont have the 'holy of holies', as the unarmed and meak are who have been surrounded by terrorist.

And I am surprised you could even spell them without melting

then adherants of judaism called for a war with germany before any war of germany began of ww2 (history, truth and fact)

That israel exists based on terrorism, violence, genocide, ethnic cleansing and oppression. (history, truth and fact)

i am biased on understanding what is real. Not what morons call an 'eternal capital'.

what solution do you propose and then lets meet in the middle.

For example; does the world approve of israeli occupation of west bank, golan, and jerusalem? No, they dont. So since the majority already know that israel even existing has been based on occupation, terrorism, violence and oppression, then they must stop and back up, before anyone can even consider their intentions as honorable.

The palestinians didnt encroach on israel but have always been defending themselves, with even just rocks, since the BIASED sobs, will not even note that they are not the aggressors.

It is funny, that you know who the aggressors are, but lack the compassion to stand up and be honest about it.

that NO ONE is 'CHOSEN" to be better than another, no matter the belief. There's a good start.

So now if all weapons are removed from the HOLY LAND, then a start on equality can begin.

humanity and what is real

there you go, admitting who is WRONG

WHO is that?

Are you trying to suggest that jehovah has a say in any of our conversation?

- - - Updated - - -

good point.

At least he would perhaps give a straight answer.

 

your anti-Semitism is disgusting.

some Jews decided to boycott Germany because they elected an anti-Semite & Fascist as their new leader.

 

semitic is a language group

here is my quote "then adherants of judaism called for a war with germany before any war of germany began of ww2 (history, truth and fact)"

as you mixed the quotes up.

It's OK, i fixed my end, because i know when an error is done.

You dont!

Some? looks like it was a 'holy war' to some.

Semitic is a language group. Bigots still use the term 'anti semitic' to human beings, just because they are ignorant.

 

Yes, Neo-Nazis today consider it a "holy war".

they also love this link, accusing "Judea of declaring war against Germany".

 

What did the people that declared that 'war' against germany, as represented in the article, mean by a 'holy war'?

Meaning, that term 'holy war' was used by them, before muslims, in this century (that i know ot).

Are you just suggesting that the 'jews' of the article are neo nazis? That's a tough concept, that most will have a hard time with but it does fit today's ashkanazi called bibi, of today.

Who is they?

I show something that anyone can look up, to see the historical evidence. What is your argument: are you suggesting that the news of the 'declaration of war' and boycott and 'holy war' of 1933 are not true?

 

Only Neo-Nazis call it a "holy war". No Jews back then called it that.

And also, the Jewish boycott of Germany was a reaction to constant German harrassment of Jews and their businesses, and the Nazis refusal to protect Jews and Jewish businesses in Germany.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_Boycott_of_1933#Events_in_Germany

 

Is this the neo nazi you're talking about

Samuel Untermeyer[3]) was a Jewish-American lawyer and civic leader as well as a self-made millionaire. He was born in Lynchburg, Virginia but after the death of his father the rest of the family moved to New York, where he studied law.

I guess you're right on one part.

 

Yes morons can't quite make the connection between occupation and oppression, nor that the losers don't dictate the terms of occupation withdrawal.

But it does appear you have major comprehension problems. I never called you brilliant. I called your idiotic questions "brilliant". this is called sarcasm. Look it up as it seems this is yet another concept that totally escapes you.

Oh look yet another idiotic response. there doesn't seem to be any implication in your response.
Another brilliant misuse of the language. that you persist is amusing.

I am well aware of what the word semitic means. I am also well aware of the term anti-semitic which was coined in the late 1800's.
You might want educate yourself before once again making yourself look like a fool.

Really? Parsing the label concentration camp does not yield the defintion of what a concentration camp is nor what its use is for.
Apparently, according to you nobody lived in gaza prior to 1948. And they live in a camp?
Look up the term camp and tell me how camps can be constructed of concrete and brick, have sewers, roads and shopping malls.

Apparently semantics is not your strong suit.

Tell that to the Romans who conquered the nation of Israel. Who plundered the second temple and took the booty back to rome. Vespasian even used some of the temple loot to build the colesium.
Interesting you would use a childrens story as an analogy for the historic record.

[quoted]
a rediculous claim that 'jerusalem' IS the "eternal capital" of a state that never existed before 48' is more than just rediculous, it's stupid! [/quote]

Its "ridiculous". It seems we violently agree, but you can't quite comprehend english.

Are you really that simple?

Nope. I think you will find that many, if not most nations were born of violence and blood. Certainly America was, England, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Greece, China, etc. Where they all holy and chosen? Your grasp of history leaves a considerably amount to be desired.

English please.

get back to me when you grasp the difference. As for melting, spontaneous human combustion is an urban myth, but I'm not surprised you might think it real.

Once again you confuse propaganda with history, truth and fact. A smal group of jews called for a world wide trade boycott of Germany, which was almost completely ineffective. That cannot even remotely be considered a declaration of war by anyone other than a jew hater whose hatred blinds them to both the truth and the facts.

You have no clue what is real as exhibited by your repeated displays of blind bias, but no matter.
Israel exists. Yes it was created thru a war of independence like many nations. Yes there was extreme violence like many wars of independence. Yes there was lots of death like many wars of independence. Yes there was forced eviction like many wars of independence. Yes occupation is oppressive in all circumstance. Of course occupation didn't happen until 20 years AFTER Israel was established.

Unilateral withdrawal is simply a stupid demand.

I support a peace treaty that a) removes most of the west bank settlements. b) swaps land for the the remaining settlements and guaranteed physical link between the WB and gaza c) a token acknowledgement of "return" d) formulaic compensation paid to the palestinian government for loss of personal property in 1948 and let the government sort out who gets what e) Palestine remains a non military nation but with appropriate security/police forces f) free trade between Israel and Palestine g) Israeli control of air space h) guaranteed of access to all religious sites in Palestine i) Palestine assumes control of their own energy generation and municipal services j) amnesty for all k) shared development of off shore oil resources l) joint control and equitable distribution of water resources m) division of jerusalem that ensures Israeli sovereign access to the wailing wall n) and no doubt a bizillion other details.

Of course the palestinians and their arab allies attempted to encroach on Israel. Not once but a few times.
Occupiers are always the aggressors, d'uh.

It not a matter of compassion, its a matter of pragmatic political analysis.

As an atheist, I agree that nobody is "chosen" by any god, but as a pragmatist I am well aware that every religion on this planet believes that their adherents are truly chosen by god.

OTOH, even when its pointed out to you and are provided with the simplistic of links , you maintain a real lack of understanding of the meaning of the jews "choseness".

seriously? and how exactly would this be accomplished?

I guess pragmatism and the ability to see both the right and the wrong of any one side is beyond you. Only those possessed with intellectual inflexibility can view the world in black and white and fail to grasp the true nature of the human condition.

I have observed you can't maintain a train of thought from one post to the next. You really should work on that.

 

Palestine is being occupied by losers causing human oppression.

I get it.

Im smaught

Just capitalize your sentences and you wont feel like an idiot.

Ghonapsyphilherpaliads was coined about 20 decades ago. It's a one word disclosure when dating.

israel uses its concentration camp for


[video=youtube;WbLUUo3EYOk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLUUo3EYOk[/video]
On civilians......

You're using theology for your claim. So what's the difference.

ie.... "History" ...................... the basics
The archaeological record[edit source]

Scholars are split on whether the archaeological record supports the biblical narrative.

In the 1920s, the German scholar Albrecht Alt proposed that an Israelite conquest of Canaan - the story of the book of Joshua - was not supported by the archaeological record. Instead, he proposed that the main biblical idea was still correct, but that the Israelites entered Canaan peacefully instead of through conquest. Later, this compromise was abandoned, and the Israelites were interpreted to be indigenous Canaanites. The revision of Israelite origins has implications for Israelite religion: whereas the Bible had depicted them as monotheists from the beginning, the new thought was that they were polytheists who gave rise to a small and ultimately successful group of monotheistic revolutionaries



Egypt brought monotheism to canaan, and that is of archeology and why the so called 'israel' story cannot be sustained.

Only an idiot still believes what babblers claim.

that was a great quote. tatoo it on your forehead

I know that you are learning. Even if it seems like violence to have your beliefs turned over.

Nope. The bigots sustain that claim. Which belief system teaches their children that and even clip their winkie, in a ritual because of it.

Your grasp of history leaves a considerably amount to be desired.

good girl.

What a stupid comment. Zionist were terrorizing british and the indigenous of palestine, all throughout the region for decades, before israel was ever created

1 minute you know the oppression was clear, then you drop the ball

and golan, and jerusalem

screw acknolwedgement

You act like I have to believe 'holocaust' is what bigots say it is, too? What a goof!!

I aint believing that the swine are 'returning'.................. or that ww2 is 'holocaust' as the pigs claim.

But then, lets negotiate. If israel admits that judaism is the monotheism of ahkenatan (egyptian foundations) and then I could associate that (some) israelis are egyptians 'returning'

tp the people, not to a government

and yu said that unilateral is out????

Nah... israelis can pay to even be there, to trade

again, that unilateral part is 'tupid'

except the holy of holies, there will be no lambs sacrificed there, just for swine to feel good about themselves

But we can negotiate: No israeli armed human beings in the region, and ill see what i can do about that lamb deal.

Call up russian and ask them to build them a nuke reactor....!

and dont forget the 'right of return' for all palestinians

Israelis can pay for the use of palestinian land. ie.. israel pays the infrastructure, palestinians get free refined fuel for 70 yrs

have to ask syria, they own the golan

i suppose you'll still want the man side and women side (israelis dont have an equally used head banging wall)

The men and women can head bang together!!! I know that bigots dont like equality, but that WILL change

All men, have to be men. No curlers in the hair for men and perhaps it would be requested that the women must shave mustache.

Then to teach what is real about sexuality. For example it is not natural for men on men (sword fights) and women on women (bumping donuts). Both of them styles of flatulence are selfish and I do understand both are an israeli approved sickness of ignorance, but selfishness and ignorance are what must be addressed with sincerity.



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In that case, I await a clear demonstration.

You want to play grammar nazi? Put on your uniform.

Persistent repetition does not equal truth.

Are you serious? Have you picked up a book and read anything about ancient Israel?
Even your quote does not dispute the fact that Israel existed.

Its one scholar's theory of how Israel came to be. Its much like there is absolutely no evidence for the exodus of the bible, and scholars now know that the pyramid builders were not slaves. Considering all the fairy tales in the bible, I have never accepted it as an historical document. I prefer archeology over religion.

the story of the establishement of "so called Israel" can and is under some academic dispute. However, unsurprisingly you miss the point. Israel existed way back when as did Jerusalem, as did the Jewish nation, as did the temple, as did the Roman conquest.

And the ignorant should throw stones.

a legend in ones own mind it seems. Odd that you first note I don't always capitalize my sentences and then proceed to do the same. I shall refrain from pointing out both the spelling mistake above and in your "great" quote nor the profound ignorance of the statement itself. You truly need to expand your knowledge base.

I never stop learning. I am still awaiting learning something of substance from you, but my hope is but a flicker at this point.

You have yet to make any plausible case, other than spew propaganda, that could turn over my beliefs. Despite repeated statements of my beliefs it seems you merely demonstrate an impressive talent of ignoring that which you do not agree with or that you cannot understand. not surprising given your debating approach.

Now that is truly a clownish few of sentences. Thanks for the laugh.
Its yet another demonstration of the profound ignorance of world history you possess.

yes child, except you also have been told that I am a man. Yet another factoid that seems to "slip thru the cracks".

I am well aware of the history of the region. Apparently, you are not. I said the occupation did not begin until 20 years after the war of independence. You come respond with a tangential one sided comment. Look up the arab riots in palestine. Terrorism was a tactic of both sides.

But, I do realize that you have so far demonstrated an inability to seperate completely different concepts.

Off the rails completely.

No wonder the palestinians are still occupied. With supporters like you, who needs enemies?

I shall save this little post for the next time you disengenously try to claim that you are not a jew hating bigot.

 

Allow me to demonstrate the correct way to bash a "Grammar Nazi", like so:

Take one of his own posts and find the errors he accuses others of. Why - BINGO:

That's tiring. I didn't even want to touch all the assorted grammar errors either, such as tattoo spelled with only two t's instead of three. Or how, when he said "Just capitalize your sentences and you wont feel like an idiot." - he didn't use an apostrophe in the contraction "won't"

I propose a new rule here on PF.com - let's call it "Wolfe's law". Wolfe's law states: "Anyone condemning the grammar of another poster must use perfect grammar as well." I should petition the mods to make it an infraction. And for the record, I correct English on a daily basis at work, and I never care about it here UNLESS someone else starts whining about it. Or if it's a funny typo.

 

Other than your America-hate, do you have a point here ?

 

Companies Supporting the Israeli
Occupation of Palestinian Land
October, 2009
This information is a gift from Hoder Investment Research (HIR). HIR wishes to thank the Coalition of Women for
Peace (CWP) in Israel for information used in this report. Their web site is www.whoprofits.org. HIR encourages
donations to their work. Items in blue were published by the New England United Methodist Divestment Task Force
(www.neumc.org/divest) and have been updated here. Questions or suggestions may be directed to
apassionforpeace@aol.com. Neither Hoder Investment Research nor the Interfaith Peace Initiative assumes any legal
responsibility for the accuracy of the material included in this report or for actions based thereon. Readers should go
directly to the sources listed to learn more about the companies and assess their role in the occupation.
1. AFRICA ISRAEL INVESTMENTS LTD. (TLV:AFIL) (TLV:AFPR) (TLV:AFHS) builds settler
housing in multiple settlements through its subsidiary construction firm, Danya Cebus. The
company also owns the Israeli franchise of the real estate agency Anglo Saxon, which has a
branch in the settlement of Ma'ale Edomim and offers apartments and houses in many
settlements in the Occupied Territories. The company owns 26% of Alon Group, which is also
involved with the settlements (see below). Note: Africa Israel Chairman and founder Lev Leviev
and his brother are responsible for the settlements of Zufim (Tsufim) and Zufim North on land
belonging to the village of Jayyous in the northern West Bank. They are being built by a Leviev
company called Leader Management & Development. The villageës water wells, greenhouses,
and most of its agricultural land have been confiscated for these settlements. Among the largest
investors in Africa Israel are Barclayës Global Investors (which has been purchased by
BlackRock), and the Vanguard Group. In August 2009, Blackrock made a decision to divest from
Africa Israel due to its involvement in the occupation.
2. AHAVA ñ DEAD SEA LABORATORIES LTD. This company is not yet publicly traded, but it
explored an initial public offering on the London Stock Exchange in 2007 and should be watched.
It sells its products in American and British stores. These cosmetics and skin care items are
manufactured in the illegal West Bank settlement of Mitzpe Shalem. They have often
masqueraded as products of Israel, when in fact they are not made within Israelís internationally
recognized borders.
3. AIG (NYSE:AIG) has invested $50 million in a new investment fund created by Shamrock, which
is primarily controlled by the Roy Disney family. (It did this in 2008, only weeks before its financial
troubles became public.) This investment gives AIG a 20% stake in the fund. Shamrock haspurchased 17% of AhavañDead Sea Cosmetics, located in the illegal West Bank settlement of
Mitzpe Shalem. Shamrock also invests in the Orad Group, an Israeli firm that provides military
electronic monitoring of Israelís separation wall. AIG has a subsidiary EMI, or Ezer Mortgage
Insurance, in Israel, which offers funding for mortgages up to 95% with no guarantor. According
to its web site, ìEMI works with all the major mortgage banks and major Bank Realtors/estate
agents in the Israeli market.î Many of these banks and realtors sell property in the illegal
settlements of the West Bank. At least two banks that work with EMI have branches in the
settlements.
4. ALLIANT TECH SYSTEMS (NYSE:ATK) is engaged with an Israeli company in the production of
rubberñcoated bullets. Such bullets are frequently used against Palestinians, as well as Israeli
and international peace activists engaged in peaceful demonstrations in the West Bank. Rubber
bullets often blind, disfigure or kill those who are hit by them. Alliant is also engaged in other
contracts that support the Israeli military, which enforces the occupation. The company produces
fuses for cluster bombs and Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems. 2
5. ALON GROUP (TLVRAL), (TLV:BSI) is a holding company which has several companies
involved in the occupation. Alon Group owns Dor Alon (TLVRAL), a petrol company, which has
a monopoly over the supply of petroleum to the Gaza Strip and has repeatedly halted supplies of
its products to Gaza as part of the Israeliñimposed siege of that area. Dor Alon has several gas
stations and convenience stores in different Israeli settlements in the West Bank. Alon Group
also owns Blue Square (TLV:BSI), a retail chain which has branches and offices in multiple
settlements throughout the West Bank, and is the Israeli franchisee of Pizza Hut, which has a
restaurant in the Israeli settlement of Pisgat Ze'ev.
6. ALSTOM (EPA:ALO) is a French company helping to build the new light rail system in Jerusalem
that will connect the city to illegal settlements in the West Bank. This will strengthen the ring of
settlements Israel has built around Arab East Jerusalem in violation of international law. Alstom
is responsible for the construction of the light rail, the production of 23 carriages, the signal
system, and the maintenance of the infrastructure for the first line of the network, which will run
between the illegal settlement of Pisgat Ze'ev and Mount Herzl.
7. ARLEDAN INVESTMENTS LTD. (TLV:ARDN) is one of the companies building houses in the
illegal settlements of the West Bank. The company has built in the French Hill section of
occupied East Jerusalem and in the settlement of Gilo.
8. ASHLAD LTD (TLV:ASHL), a subsidiary of ASHTROM GROUP, supplies construction materials
for checkpoints ("terminals") for the Israeli Ministry of Defense. According to the Coalition of
Women for Peace, it also manufactures the concrete slabs and other concrete elements for the
wall, such as those in the section near Beit Horon inside the West Bank.
9. ASHTROM GROUP (TLV:ASPR) is one of the investors in the construction of the Light Rail
Project (37.5%) which will connect West Bank settlements with Jerusalem. Ashtrom Group also
owns Israbeton Concrete Industries, which has a concrete factory in the industrial zone of Atarot,
in the West Bank. Israbeton sells concrete to Solel Boneh and Danya Cebus, two major
settlement construction firms. Ashtrom owns Ashlad, which rents out industrial spaces in the
industrial zone of Barkan in the West Bank, supplies construction materials for checkpoints, and
manufactures concrete elements for the separation wall.
10. AVGOL NONWOVEN INDUSTRIES (TLV:AVGL) manufactures nonwoven fabrics which are
mostly used in sanitary pads and diapers. Avgol has factories in the US, Russia and China ñ and
one factory in the Barkan Industrial Zone, which is on occupied land in the West Bank.
According to the Coalition of Women for Peace, its main clients are Proctor & Gamble and
Covidien. Both companies have confirmed their use of material from this plant.
11. BAE SYSTEMS (LON:BA) (OTC:BAESY) BAE Systems provides 'Head up Displays' (HUD) for
Fñ16 fighter aircraft destined for Israel. BAE Systems also supplies parts of the 'navigation suite'
and elements of the 'self protection suite' (including a BAE Systems/Rokar flare). Fñ16ís have
been used against Palestinians in the occupied territories. (See Lockheed Martin research.) They
were used in the massive Israeli assault on Gaza in December, 2008 ñ January, 2009.
12. BANK LEUMI (TLV:LUMI) (PINK:BLMIF) is the second largest bank in Israel. According to the
Coalition of Women for Peace, it has branches in the following settlements in the West Bank:
Ma'ale Edomim, Oranit, Pisgat Ze'ev, Gilo, Kiryat Arba, Katzerin. The bank has partial control
over several companies that are involved in the occupation: Paz Oil Company (15%), Super
Pharm (18%) and Hot Communication Systems (cable TV) (15%). Super Pharm is an Israeli
drugstore chain with branches in the following settlements: Ma'ale Edomim, Pisgat Ze'ev, Gilo.

to be continued

 

continued from above

Super Pharm is also one of the owners of Blockbuster in Israel, which has DVD vending
machines in the settlements of Ariel, Giv'at Ze'ev, Ma'ale Edomim, and Sha'arei Tikva. Bank
Leumi is also one of the banks lending money to the Citypass Consortium, which is building a
tramway to connect Jerusalem with illegal settlements in the West Bank.
13. B. GAON HOLDINGS LTD. (TLV:GARE) owns significant shares in Ahava Dead Sea
Laboratories, as well as 100% of Ace Israel. Both of these companies have either manufacturing
facilities or stores in illegal settlements in the West Bank.
14. BLOCKBUSTER (NYSE:BBI) Blockbuster has kiosks in illegal settlements on occupied
Palestinian land. They are important in creating a climate of permanence and normalcy in illegal
communities established on occupied territory. The settlements have been identified as key
impediments to peace in the region.
15. BLUE SQUARE ñ ISRAEL LTD. (TLV:BSI), owned by the Alon Group, is a retail chain which has
branches and offices in multiple settlements throughout the West Bank. Alon is a holding
company which has several companies involved in the occupation. It has participated in the
siege of Gaza through suspension of oil and gas supplies to civilians.
16. BOEING (NYSE:BA) has been a major supplier of the Fñ15 Eagle and the AHñ64 Apache attack
helicopter to Israel. These aircraft have been used to attack Palestinians in the Occupied
Territories, resulting in many civilian casualties. Boeing makes missile systems, Fñ15 software,
Apache Helicopters, and Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM), a guided airñtoñsurface weapon.
All these weapons are sold to the Israeli military and were used in the massive Israeli assault on
Gaza at year-end 2008.
17. B. YAIR BUILDING CORPORATION LTD. (TLV:BYAR) is a developer of residential complexes,
shopping malls, and commercial projects in settlements. It has sold buildings in many
settlements, including Har Homa and Maale Adumim. The companyís web site shows pictures of
residential buildings it has constructed in Maale Adumim.
18. CARMEL HOLDINGS (TLV:CRHO) is a holding company for several furniture, household and
carpet manufacturing companies. The company sells its products through its chain stores: Betili,
I.D. Design and Carmel Carpets. According to Whoprofits.org, subsidiary companies of Carmel
Holdings -- including Barkan Carpets, Iko Designs, Carmel Carpets, Carpetec, Caesarea Carpets
and the Beitili Brand -- have factories and warehouses in the Shahak and Barkan industrial zones
in the West Bank.
19. CATERPILLAR CORPORATION (NYSE:CAT) supplies bulldozers and earthñmoving equipment
to the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) through the US Foreign Military Sales program. It knows the
IDF uses these to destroy Palestinian homes, orchards and olive groves in the Occupied
Territories. These are clearly violent acts aimed at civilians. Yet Caterpillar continues to provide
equipment for this purpose through its Israeli representative Zoko, owned by Israel Tractors and
Equipment (ITE). Israel Tractors and Equipment has collaborated with InRob Tech and Israel
Aircraft Industries to robotize Caterpillar bulldozers and equipment so that they can accomplish
their destruction without endangering the lives of operators. (See p. 124) Caterpillarís weaponized
bulldozers were used to clear the way for ground troops in Israelís recent assault on the Gaza
Strip. The IDF considers these bulldozers such an important part of its weaponry that it has
announced plans to draft civilians to maintain them on the battlefield. Caterpillar bulldozers and
earthñmoving equipment are used to clear Palestinian land for illegal Israeli settlements,
segregated roads and the ìSeparation Barrier.î 4
20. CEMENT ROADSTONE HOLDINGS (NYSE:CRH) benefits from a monopoly on cement
production within Israel through its 25% stake in the Israeli group Mashav Initiating and
Development Ltd., which is the holding company for Nesher Cement. Nesher claims on its web
site to be Israelís sole producer of cement. Cement is being used in the construction of the
Separation Wall inside the West Bank, which the International Court of Justice has ruled illegal.
Cement is also used to build settlements on Palestinian land.
21. CEMEX (AMEX:CEQ), based in Mexico, owns Readymix, which has a site in Mishor Adumim, a
settlement deep inside the West Bank. Cemex purchased the parent company of Readymix,
RMC Group plc, in 2005. According to the Coalition of Women for Peace (whoprofits.org),
Readymix also ìowns a quarry for aggregates in the West Bank, and has provided concrete
elements for construction of infrastructure in the occupied West Bank.î
22. CHEMRING GROUP PLC (LON:CHG, and PINK:CMGMF) owns Chemring Countermeasures
Ltd., which sells ammunition to the Israeli Navy. The Israeli Navy has repeatedly fired on unarmed Gaza fishermen as they fish in Gazaís own coastal waters. Palestinian civilians seeking
to earn a living have been killed and maimed in these attacks. Israel claims to have ended the
occupation of Gaza, but in fact controls access to Gaza by land, sea and air. Israeli Navy ships
shelled the Gaza Strip during Israelís massive 2008 year-end assault on Gaza, which killed more
than 1400 Palestinians.
23. CLAL INDUSTRIES AND INVESTMENTS LTD. (TLV:CII) holds 75% of Nesher Israel Cement
Enterprises, through Mashav Initiating and Development. According to the Coalition of Women for
Peace (whoprofits.org) ìNesher provided cement for the construction of Israeli settlements and
infrastructure in the West Bank and most likely also for the construction of the separation wall. In
July 2009, Clal subsidiary Mashav purchased Hanson Israel, which has three plants in West Bank
settlements and one Israeli aggregates quarry in the occupied West Bank. The deal still awaits
the approval of the Israeli Antitrust Authority. The company also owns Golf & Co, a retail store
which has a branch in the settlement of Pisgat Ze'ev in the occupied West Bank. Clal Industries
and Investments major shareholder is the IDB Group through IDB Development.î (see IDB below)
24. COVIDIEN (NYSE:COV) has been one of the major customers for Avgol Nonwoven Industries,
which produces nonwoven fabrics in the Barkan Industrial Zone in the West Bank. Covidien is a
health care products company based in Mansfield, MA. It was recently sold to First Quality,
which has been asked to comment on whether Covidien is still a customer of Avgol. First Quality
also produces nonwoven fabrics, and there was speculation that it could supply Covidien with
these. First Quality has declined to comment. Covidien has acknowledged that it is an Avgol
customer, but says the portion of material used from the West Bank location is small. The
Coalition of Women for Peace (whoprofits.org) has stated that Covidien accounts for about 32%
of Avgol sales.

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25. DELL COMPUTERS (NASDAQELL) subsidiary Dell Israel has supplied 50,000 PCs to the IDF
(Israel Defense Forces) over three years at a total cost of $20 million, which is below the market
value. The IDF uses these computers to enforce Israelís military occupation of Palestinian land.
26. DOR ALON ENERGY IN ISRAEL (198 LTD. (TLVRAL) (See Alon Group)
27. ELBIT SYSTEMS LTD. (NASDAQ:ESLT) - Elbit Systems Ltd. is an international defense
electronics company headquartered in Israel. It is a major supplier to the IDF, which is enforcing
the occupation of Palestinian land. According to the Coalition of Women for Peace, it is one of
two main providers of the electronic detection fence for the separation wall in the occupied West
Bank. It supplied and incorporated LORROS surveillance cameras in the Ariel and A-ram 5
sections of the separation wall. The company supplied UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) to the
Israeli army, which has used these to kill and maim Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.
28. ELECTRONIC DATA SYSTEMS (formerly NYSE: EDS) has been bought by Hewlett Packard
(NYSE:HPQ). (8/26/06) EDS heads a consortium that provides special electronic monitoring of
the major checkpoint between Israel and the Gaza Strip. The system is based on biometric
identification, and is being extended to cover at least seven other checkpoints, several of them
inside the West Bank.
29. EMBLAZE (LON:BLZ) is an Israeli firm with holdings in information technology as well as
wireless and cellular technology solutions. It owns 50.1% of Formula Systems, parent company
of Matrix Ltd., which is outsourcing information technology work for other companies to settlers in
the illegal West Bank settlement of Modiíin Illit. (For more information, see Formula Systems,
below.)
30. EMILIA DEVELOPMENT (TLV:EMDV) owns Adumim Food Additives, which is located in the
industrial zone of Mishor Edomim in the West Bank Emilia Development also owns Maxima Air
Separation Center, which holds a distribution center in the Maíale Edomim settlement on the
West Bank. (Note: Adumim and Edomim are the same word spelled in different ways. Mishor
Edomim and Maele Edomim are different settlements.)
31. FORMULA SYSTEMS LTD. (NASDAQ:FORTY) is a global information technology (IT) solutions
and services company based in Israel. The Company is principally engaged in providing software
consulting services. It is the parent company of MATRIX (see below), which outsources IT
services to settlers at the illegal settlement of Modiíin Illit in the West Bank.
32. GENERAL DYNAMICS (NYSE:GD) Land Systems in the USA manufactures the GD 883 diesel
engine for Israelís Merkava 4 battle tanks. It has supplied about 1,000 M60A3 Main Battle Tanks
to Israel. These tanks are frequently used against Palestinians in the occupied territories. It also
produces equipment used on the F-16 Fighting Falcon Jets sold to Israel. General Dynamics is
the general contractor for the production of 3,500 MKñ84 "general purpose" bombs, spares and
repair parts for Israel. These were among the major weapons used in Israelís recent massive
assault on the Gaza Strip, which killed more than 1400 Palestinians.
33. GENERAL ELECTRIC CORPORATION (NYSE:GE) GE supplies the propulsion system for
Israel's AHñ64 Apache Assault Helicopter, which has been used in Israeli attacks on Palestinian
towns and refugee camps. It also possesses contracts with Israel to sell engines for a variety of
military aircraft. In addition, GE possesses several Israeli service contracts for engineering
support and testing.
34. GLOBECOMM SYSTEMS INC (GSI) (NASDAQ: GCOM) of New York, in partnership with
Tadiran Spectralink of the Elisra Group (Israel), supplies the IDF with equipment and facilities for
communication between all branches of the IDF ground forces. The system includes mobile
stations installed on HMMWV vehicles. These vehicles are used by the IDF in the occupied
territories.
35. HEWLETT PACKARD COMPANY (NYSE:HPQ) owns Electronic Data Systems, which heads a
consortium providing biometric monitoring of checkpoints, including several built inside the West
Bank in violation of international law. HP also supplies printers to the IDF, which enforces the
occupation. The Israeli Navy has chosen HP Israel to carry out the outsourcing of its IT
infrastructure. Under the project, HP Israel will assume full responsibility for the management and
operation of the Navy's IT infrastructure, including computer and communications centers, 6
information security and full end user support. The Israeli Navy has attacked ships carrying
humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza. It regularly attacks Gazaës fishermen within Gazaës own
territorial waters, and has often shelled civilian areas in the Gaza Strip, killing Palestinians.
Hewlett Packard subsidiary HP Invent outsources IT services to a company called Matrix, which
employs settlers in the illegal settlement of Modiëin Illit to do much of its IT work at low wages.

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i just copied it from jonsa

"
Your grasp of history leaves a considerably amount to be desired"
and the goof didnt even realize it...... :321:

i LiKe beIng DifFeRenT.


Stay on the thread or at least post input towards the conversation pieces but talking about me, just shares that I own the both of you.

 

Josephus aint history. he claimed jesus was messiah, that in itself shares the corruption of the works

I dispute your integrity.

that is what I crack up on the goofs that claim crap about ancient israel

exodus is best comprehended as the schism to monotheism by ahkenatan.

if that was the case, then ancient israel would not even be in your thought process, because there is no archeology on an ancient israel or of a 'jew' called david.

It's all story telling

and no archeological dispute, because there is none.

basic

again, by what archeology? You are putting your foot in your mouth and dont realize it.

goof...

i copied your line verbatim and why i was laughing AT YOU when you rebutted.

You are constantly having to evolve, to even communicate with me.

I have been watching you for months

that bottom line was YOURS. I copied it from your post.

And you didnt even notice it.....

Fricken hilarious

i am sorry to have said that you're a women. I shouldnt discount a women to be so low. To me, women have more empathy for others than i find from your posts.

You accept beliefs and have no idea what you are saying

what war of independance?
That sheet hole aint the USA.

I like reality, you like to hold onto beliefs. Of course I am sided.

weak.......

But at least you admit which side is the oocupied and aware specifically which ones are the ff(*)(*)(*)(*)ing bigots. Then to correct you; they are STILL occupied because of people like YOU.

I hate liars and you are evidence of what happens to people by lies.

I dont hate human beings that sustain an integrity. I know you are learning but pride is far to prevalent in your demeanor.

I dont have a problem with a person having a self worth, but as soon as you go against truth, to sustain BS, then you and I will have a problem.

 

Then don't complain about the differences of others. There is a word that describes holding others to a higher standard than one holds oneself to.