"I don't want Syria to become another Iraq"

I simply don't want to support this and enter direct confrontations with Russia/China directly. Syria should be resolved by Syria IMO.

 

The human toll of US bombing and war in Syria should be the primary concern. It would be hellish.

But look at this ...

Cost of U.S. military involvement in Syria estimated at $1 billion per month




WASHINGTON -

"Establishing a no-fly zone to protect Syrian rebels would require hundreds of U.S. aircraft at a cost of more than $1 billion per month, with no assurance that it would change the momentum in the civil war there, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Monday."

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Co...ia+estimated+billion+month/8693885/story.html

 

So....that I decided to address reality. rather than delve into the unique fabrication eating away at those few neural synapsis still holding on within what might be considered a mind, and pointed out an obvious possibility that made you feel a bit ridiculous forced you to not only ignore my comment, but produce a childish and pathetically inferior insult that carries no truth.


Impressively Sad.

 

Here is a letter I just emailed to a Senator in my State.

Hello, I wanted to contact you to let you know I oppose the US starting a war in Syria. The only basis for a war is dubious Intelligence provided to us by Israel. It is not clear that chemical weapons were used in Syria AND if so, who has used chemical weapons in Syria. This is not a reasonable basis for any nation to attack Syria. And an attack shall only increase the suffering of the Syrian people. Further, an attack would be a violation of the UN Charter, which only allows attacks on other nations in situations of self defense and in cases where there is authorization by the Security Counsel. Treaties are the law of the land under the US Constitution. Please vote against military strikes in Syria, do not make us war criminals and child killers and innocent civilian killers. Diplomacy is the only answer to make things better in Syria, we will not help the people of Syria by putting Al Qaeda and other extremist groups in power there. A military operation does not serve the interests of America. We are The United States of America, not The United States of Israel. And the US people oppose a war in Syria, by a percentage of 96% to 4%. Here is a link to a poll. http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/309974-war-with-syria-yea-or-nay.html People are tired of wars. Please act for the people, not the lobbies and special interests. Let us be a nation seeking peace and not one starting more wars. That is the example Jesus sets for Christians to follow, to pursue peace. Thank you for considering my comments. Sherri Munnerlyn

 

And the proponents of that theory have often suggested that the WMDs were shipped over the border to Syria!

 

Here's the old, crone Kerry & his wife dining with Assad just a few years ago. I believe he stupidly compared him to HItler yesterday? The Bush koolaid is now being guzzled by the democrats, who would have ever thought it. But this time, the press will let them get away with it. The fix is in.



" Assad and Kerry - who was then a senator for Massachusetts - lean in towards each other and appear deep in conversation as their wives look on.

A waiter is pictured at their side with a tray of green drinks - which are believed to be lemon and crushed mint.

The picture is believed to have been taken in February 2009 in the Naranj restaurant in Damascus when Kerry led a delegation to Syria to discuss ideas and talk about the way forward for peace in the region.

So four and a half years ago, Kerry and wife Teresa dined with the Assads.

If Kerry were a Republican who on Sunday compared Assad to Hitler and Hussein, the media would have a field day with this picture.

Given their affection for Obama and Kerry, it's going to be fascinating to see how this gets reported in the coming days.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-s...assad-2009-will-media-report-it#ixzz2dvysntYe
"

 

I was watching CNN today and listened to a Congressman specifically ask Kerry and Hagel to promise Assad used chemical weapons. The Congressman explained, he had a meeting the night before with Veterans, and they asked him to get Kerry and Hagel to promise Assad truly used weapons. Both evaded the question, Kerry would not even once use that word promised, in his response to the question. Hagel was even worse, he primarily answered he agreed with Kerrys answer. They do not care what the truth is about Assad, all this is is an excuse to start a war with Syria. They likely know Assad did not use chemical weapons and are deliberately lying about everything. We have been through all of this before. We here the lies to justify an unlawful war, the truth later comes out, and they all say well we relied on credible Intelligence. And there the story ends.

 

What is truly hilarious is all the talk about how military strikes on Syria show the great Morality of the United States. The world is laughing about the US every time they speak about Morality. No Nation commits war crimes like the US does, no other nation is so lacking in Morality as the US is, with all of her unlawful wars and killing in those wars, mostly killing of innocent civilians. I cannot hardly stand to listen to these warmongers talk, the false claims to morality, the gross Hypocrisy. I was reading the Introduction to Robert Fisks book The Great War For Civilization. He spoke of two memories that stood out in all he had seen, they were victims of chemical weapons in Saddams war with Iran and victims of US chemical weapons in Falluja. The US provided the components to Saddam he used to make those chemical weapons he used to kill hundreds of thousands in Iran, and the US shared Satellite photos to show Saddam where the troops were, knowing full well that Saddam would gas those troops with chemical weapons they helped Saddam make.

And the US talks about morality, I need to go puke thinking about it again.

 

Yes, their past history shows them up as what they are, lying hypocrites. Utube shows what liars they all are. Obama actually lied today to say he never stated a red line on chemical weapons. Here is the video showing him stating the red line.. It's amazing that the Obamabots are defending a lying neocon just because he's a democrat.
The anti-war liberals are saying nothing. His statement on red line starts at 1:50.

[video=youtube;IxxwfaIAl_Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxxwfaIAl_Q#t=14[/video]

 

Kerry should resign.

Thanx for posting, most Liberal shows conveniently put this down the memory hole.

 

USA Missile Attack On Syria Shot Down by Russia
“the US forces fired these two rockets from a NATO base in Spain, and were instantly detected by the Russian radars and confronted by the Russian defense systems, so one of them exploded in the airspace and the second one diverted towards the sea.”

In this context, the source pointed out that “the statement issued by the Russian Defense Ministry, which stated the detection of two ballistic missiles fired towards the Middle East, intended to neglect two points: the first was the location from which the two rockets were fired, and the second was their downing.
Why?
Because the moment the full military operation was launched, Head of the Russian Intelligence Service contacted the US intelligence and informed it that “hitting Damascus means hitting Moscow, and we have removed the term “downed the two missiles” from the statement to preserve the bilateral relations and to avoid escalation.

Therefore, you must immediately reconsider your policies, approaches and intentions on the Syrian crisis, as you must be certain that you cannot eliminate our presence in the Mediterranean.”

“This unannounced direct confrontation between Moscow and Washington increased the Obama Administration’s confusion and certainty that the Russian side was ready to move until the end with the Syrian cause, and that the US did not have a way out of its impasse except through a Russian initiative which would save America’s face…” he added.

From this point, the diplomatic source clarified that “in order to avoid further US confusion, and after Israel denied knowing anything about the rocket firing in its first statement, which is the truth, Washington demanded Tel Aviv to adopt the rocket firing to save its face in front of the International Community, especially since these two rockets were the beginning of the US aggression on Syria and the announcement of the beginning of military operations, after which US President Barack Obama was supposed to go to the G20 Summit in Russia to negotiate the destiny of Syrian President Bashr Al-Assad. However, he went to find a way out of the impasse he’s in.”
http://dublinsmick.wordpress.com/20...y-russia-according-to-al-manar-tv-of-lebanon/

 

Yeah...Ivan....that never happened.

Neither Russia or the U.S. would EVER shoot down missiles launched by the other nation unless such missles were headed for Russia, the U.S. and both countries close allies.

SYRIA....is NOT considered a CLOSE Russian Ally.

AboveAlpha

 

My pleasure, thank you for posting too. Barack backtrack gave his usual ineffective speech at the U.N. today, still pushing for war with Syria, if the Syrian leaders are bad boys, you know fighting the terrorists trying to take over their country.

 

Have you skimmed this ""Which Path to Persia?" war planning paper by the CFR and Brookings from 2009? Its absolutely evil and mirrors the U.S. Obama war in Syria exactly. It describes involving Israel, creating pre-texts, sanctions, airstrikes, (allowing "Bibi" to bomb alone) funding/fomenting terror, its ******m outrageous ...and also "Supporting An Insurgency".

Notice the CFR connected types all play a role in the war plan ...


"The Brookings Institution itself is a creation of the notorious globalist funding arms including the Carnegie Corporation, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Ford Foundation, all who recently had been involved in the fake "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy. Today, Brookings boasts a full complement of support and funding from America's biggest corporations. Upon the Brookings Institution's board of trustees one will find a collection of corporate leaders from Goldman Sachs, the Carlyle Group, the insurance industry, Pepsi (CFR), Alcoa (CFR), and various CFR affiliated consulting firms like McKinsey & Company."

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/02/brookings-which-path-to-persia.html


as well as a bunch of NeoCons still making war under Obama, NeoCons fund the opposition groups like in Syria, Libya wars, Obama is a Democrat in name only

"NED & Freedom House are run by Warmongering Imperialists "

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/11/ned-freedom-house-are-run-by.html

BOMBSHELL: US Neo-Cons, State Department Behind Terror Wave in Russia

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/08/bombshell-us-neo-cons-state-department.html___

 

Hezbollah gambles all in Syria

Regional security officials told Reuters there are now between 2,000 and 4,000 Hezbollah fighters, experts and reservists in Syria. One Lebanese security official said a central command in Iran led by the Revolutionary Guards directs Hezbollah operations in Syria in close coordination with the Syrian authorities. Another source said Hezbollah had "hit squads" of highly trained fighters in Syria whose task is to assassinate military leaders among the Sunni rebels.

Hezbollah declined to comment for this report on its involvement in Syria. Nasrallah has previously said it is necessary for Hezbollah to fight Sunni radicals allied to al Qaeda.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/26/us-syria-hezbollah-special-report-idUSBRE98P0AI20130926

 

You are so quick to dismiss the comments of others without examination, all you do is invalidate your own.

Do you work at CNN?

Crossfire perhaps?

 

Well that's the problem isn't it? Since Obama and company very definitely do want to go to war against Syria . . . or at least bomb the government forces into oblivion for the benefit of the Al Qaeda infested rebels. [up to 25 percent of the the rebels are composed of Al Qaeda forces by Secretary of State Kerry's own estimation]. Of course that also begs the question . . . WHY is Obama supporting Al Qaeda?

Anyway, the president of the United States of America is a warmonger. So that's a huge problem, since warmonger presidents usually do get their wish sooner or later.

 

If Obama wanted to bomb Syria, he would have....

 

Oh good God! That's not how it works in the real world. In real politics a U.S. president has to forge international coalitions so that a large enough group of other nations are in agreement, which gives said warmongering president POLITICAL COVER for initiating an act of war . . . even if it's over the protests of Congress. Why do you think Dubya bothered with the UN and then with NATO? Why do you think that first Obama tried like hell to get Great Britain to agree to support him in an unprovoked act of war against the Syrian government? READ SOME HISTORY!

 

Hating Obama is not sufficient...

The Syrians have been killing each other for over two years.

 

The Syrians can hate Obama if they want to, and dropping bombs on their heads won't alter that determination on their part. As for the war having been going on for two years . . . this may come as a total shock to you but it is their war NOT ours.

 

I think that's why Obama is using sanctions and trying to exhaust diplomatic solutions.

 

Not only that he is a warmonger but he is also a compulsive and serial liar. The list is too long. He lies with the straight face. That is what makes him dangerous. That's why he was installed in the White House in the first place.

 

Yep . . . and the same leftwingers who condemned Bush for being a baaaaaad president are praising Obama for being . . . an almost identically bad president in eerily similar ways. I think that there is actually something wrong with the way their brains work.

 

Noooo . . . he's still doing that only because Putin and the Syrian president outmaneuvered him when he and Kerry tried to stampede the west into sanctioning his desire to bomb the Syrian government in an act of unprovoked warfare. It was in all the world's news. Surely you must have come across it since even such notoriously pro-Obama rags such as Slate e-zine and The Huffington Post were labeling Obama a hopelessly inept buffoon.