I finally got a vaccination--big mistake.

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  1. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    more than 1.5 billion doses have been given world wide

    did anybody expect for everything to be 100% perfect??

    personally , of all the people I know that have gotten the vaccine,

    only a few had mild side effects
     
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    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Gringo, the problem isn't an expectation that everything would be perfect. Nothing ever is. The vaccine hesitancy is often based on not having satisfactory answers to questions and concerns. Sure, you, personally don't know anyone that had serious side-effects but that doesn't mean they don't exist. We do a disservice when we use our individual experiences as a "scope" of what everyone else must be going through.

    I hope that doesn't come off sounding condescending. It's not intended that way at all.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's nothing wrong with living in a non-vaccine world. Border barriers, isolation, masks,
    hospitalization and mass burning of corpses is, well, organic. And it's non-Big-Pharma and
    non-Capitalist.
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People should have died so you didn't have to suffer some pain, however severe?

    I'd say you should have gotten the vaccine sooner.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Haha.
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    May I ask which vaccine you had?
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why? You seem to have the attitude that those who make money for you should be happy to keep doing so even if it kills them, while those who save your lives should do it for free.
     
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    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    Can you rephrase that, please? I have no idea what you are trying to convey.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Read up on 2020 and try to find some credible sources. If not for Trump's idiocy it is very probable that the virus would never have gotten out of China and we wouldn't need a vaccine at all.
     
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You seem to be blaming the people who were put out of work in the shutdown for costing you money and at the same time are castigating the drug companies for wanting to make wherewithal off the vaccine. Nobody wanted a 14-month long vacation and the drug companies are in business to make money after all.
     
  11. MJ Davies

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    That's not correct. My question to you was if you could see why someone would have questions about the connection between vaccine promoters and personal profit (how do you know they are recommending it for YOUR health instead of to line their own pockets?).

    We see this all the time with bloggers that rate commercial products. They have to disclose if they are being paid for their review. I don't believe asking this question of vaccine pushers is unreasonable at all.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I've yet to hear of anyone being charged for a vaccine. Nor have I heard of anyone being coerced to take it, though there are small rewards being widely offered.

    If you don't want it, don't get it. I personally wish there was some way to readily and reliably record who has refused it so we could deny them treatment if they get the COVID. Darwinism this justified is a rarity
     
  13. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Luc Montagnier is a grade A oddity and laughed at in french scientific circles.

    My coffee literally spewed through my nose as I read his name.

    Anyone who says that a vaccine "feeds" a virus is quite literally clinically insane, and that would be Luc Montagnier.

    He also committed the fatal error of logic in stating that the vaccines are creating the mutations, but the mutations are springing up where there have been very few vaccinations.

    Good thing that dude wasn't around when polio was ravaging the planet, nööööö.

    It is therefore eminently logical that the comments of such a nutbag would appear in an extreme Right-wing hit-job rag site. Oh, and the lady who wrote the article, Veronika Kyrylenko, is a Russian.

    Oh, and the right-wing whackadoodle site planet360, which did the interview with him, is a big supporter of: Hydroxychloroquine.

    LOL.

    I want to thank you very much for bringing so much humor into my day.

    Better luck to you next time.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    This is blatantly incorrect. The vaccines came out in November/December, but cases worldwide, especially in the USA, were still steeply rising all the way into the 3rd week of January, 2021 and I can easily prove it. You know where to find the big Covid-19 thread of mine. Go and read and educate yourself. So, no, no and no, the Virus was not "on the wane" as vaccines were coming out.
     
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    In this phase 3 clinical trials in the UK it was seen that those vaccinated had a much lower risk of hospitalisation and death than those not vaccinated in towns like Bolton. This led to a surge in vaccinations in these towns especially in minorities who had a low vaccine uptake and were hit hard in the last few weeks. It was also seen that two doses of the Astra vaccine gave good protection against the Indian variant which is the variant that is becoming the dominant strain in the UK
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He isn’t the only virologist warning but then an armchair expert like you would know better.
     
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    Not aware how long the rollout took or how many are not vaccinated eh?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are still phase three with the others.
     
  19. truth and justice

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    No, you're missing the point. The national roll out of the vaccines is our "phase 3" and has concluded what I wrote in my previous post
     
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  20. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Banned

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    Moderna.
     
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    Only a few had mild side effects? Does that mean that many more had serious side effects like miscarriages?

    Several weeks ago the VAERS data showed almost 3400 dead. How do you rationalize that?
     
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    Best of luck. Moderna's is the one containing SM 102, a known toxin and suspected carcinogen.
     
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    3400 ?? sounds high

    but 1.5 BILLION shots given

    this is about .00000017 % of 1.5 billion

    this is not exact and I am sure a math whiz will correct me

    what was the percentage of people that died or hospitalized when getting covid??

    I will let you search for that percentage

    after a cancer diagnosis my doctor said my chosen treatment had about a 65% chance of success

    I took my chances..went through the misery of radiation and chemo

    and 5 years later i have lived to type this post

    I trust modern medicine and encourage people to get a vaccine

    take a chance..

    life without chance is very boring... lol
     
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    Are you actually READING my comments or just winging in the hope something in your unrelated response sticks to the wall?
    We are charged for the vaccine. Our tax dollars are used to cover the costs.
    That means you haven't been paying attention. Some people are having to choose between vaccination and their jobs.
    I don't need your permission to make decisions about my life.
    This doesn't surprise me. You come off like the kind of person that thinks punishing people that don't agree with you is acceptable.

    I'm going to ask my question for a 3rd time. I'm not sure why since it's clear you are not reading it.

    Can you not understand why people would question the legitimacy of the vaccine (need for it) because some promoters have some type of financial gain in the equation?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know the answer to this one! Ask me! Ask me!

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