I knew this day would come, I just didn't know when

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  1. ryobi

    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    Well I knew this day would come. The day there would be a mainstream journalist with enough courage to write a piece exposing the wage gap for the lie it is despite the de facto censorship of left-wing political correctness. I knew eventually the Ivory Tower which is the wage gap lie would eventually be toppled by the mainstream media the way Joseph McArthy was toppled by Edward R. Murrow on October 20, 1953 on Murrow’s show See It Now.

    The journalist, Cynthia M Allen wrote on op ed piece titled, ‘The persistent myth of the gender wage gap and what’s behind it’ which I read in a mainstream newspaper, ‘The Daily World.’

    She writes,
    “Some lawmakers, politicians, interest groups particularly those that like to perpetuate self-serving narratives about sexism, say April 12 was a special day. Equal Pay Day”

    later she writes,

    “And most of that gap can be explained by her individual choices, not some insidious patriarchial scheme to cheat out of their due.”

    Eventually, the truth always seems to overcome lies. Even lies so important to so many, and so powerful like the Leader of the most powerful country in the world, Barack Obama.

    Bibliography

    Cynthia M. Allen, ‘The persistent myth of the gender wage gap and what’s behind it’ The Daily World, April 19th 2016

    See it Now: A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy (transcript)". CBS-TV. March 9, 1954. Retrieved 2007-03-16.
     
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    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    This is a big day in equalitarianism.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Seems even your new hero can only explain "most" of the pay gap, does that mean the remainder should be ignored?
     
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    I was doing my internship a few motnhs ago and thereby had to attend a seminar on "Women's Rights" on March 8th (dum dum dum). I had plan to just take it easy and not create any controversy by just sitting quietly and listen to what was being said. Then it happened, the good old wage gap came up to discussion. What was most amazing was that the lecturer could not even the answer the questions she got; One woman tried asking over and over again "But why are the wages for the same job not equal?" There was a ton of other questions she just couldn't seem to answer. The reason to why is of course because there is no such thing as a "Wage gap".

    I could not keep quiet anymore. As a Libertarian the level of Statism and irrationality was just too much for me. I firstly stated that she was not being fair because by talking the way she did; collectivizing it made seem like all men earn more than all women. She of course became very nervous and agreed it was "porblematic".

    Then I pointed that most women tend to work for the public sector and the state is unable of paying market salaries and really have no reason to raise them as they have the monopoly of these jobs. Police is a male dominated job within the public sector and even they are underpaid (so it really has (*)(*)(*)(*) to do with gender), I said. After this rant people started mumbling and whispering and soon they got into a nother topic. :lol:

    The day after this co-student I was doing my internship with told me I had gone too far yesterday and that I've been quite misogynistic.
    :roflol:
     
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    If the remainder is due to discrimination, aren't there already laws against it? What else would you have the government do to "fix" it?
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    There are law against it, problem is proving it .. perhaps something along the lines of what they do in Norway would help where every tax paying person has their income and tax paid amount published for all to see on line. It would be easy to see then if or when differentials in raises and earnings come about, and would be a lot easier to ask the questions of a company as to why a male employee has received a larger rise or salary than their female counterpart, and of course it would work the other way round as well.
     
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    That could raise some concerns regarding privacy, but i don't think i'd appose to that.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that does seem to be the biggest pit fall.
     
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    Show me a study proving there is systematic institutionalized discrimination leading to a wage gap between men and women.
     
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    Notice how that article was written by a woman???

    There are women who believe in equality even though, ostensibly, equality doesn't seem like it's in women's best interests...

    Blaming other people for the consequences of your actions and choices isn't really a successful life strategy...

    For example, I doubt anyone, women or man, is going to be an asset to a fortune 500 corporation who blames other people for the consequences of their actions and choices....
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Why, I haven't claimed there is a "systematic institutionalized discrimination leading to a wage gap between men and women.", those are your words not mine.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    and this is relevant how .. oh I know, you are of the belief that ALL women MUST be feminists, hence why you generalise all the time.

    you mean like you blame others for differentials in sentencing?

    Except of course even the report you cite and the lady in question CANNOT state where the 5% comes from or what causes it ... never mind you keep on pretending to be equalitarian.
     
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    In other words, you believe the 5% gap is the result of discrimination in the complete absence of evidence.
     
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    What's an equalitarian?
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. If women don't like what they agreed to work for, let them quit. There is no wage gap working the cash register at the convenience store. Minimum wage, baby
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    I have already on numerous occasions stated my position, the fact that you know this and still attempt to project what you desire only serves to show how dishonest you are .. please quote any comment of mine that states "the 5% gap is the result of discrimination", if you cannot I expect you to apologise for your blatant misrepresentation.

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    Maybe that is a question you should ask yourself in the mirror as it is plain you don't qualify.

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    Sigh .. nothing of any value to add then as usual.
     
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    If you believe that women are incapable of standing up for themselves alone in the workplace, that bigotry is the monkey on your back, not mine. Being someone who actually respects women instead of treating them like second-class workers and citizens, I don't think they need my help.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    So not only are you content to post rubbish, you also can read minds or is it more about projecting your own failings onto others.
     
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    I am not the one who see women as beneath them and needing my patronage. It is sad to see some people not properly brought up by a woman who handles her business on her own.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Yet again projecting your own failings onto others, please show where I have ever said women are beneath me or be labelled as nothing more than a person who projects misrepresentation of others.
     
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    Fugazi believes women are not as capable as men and therefore need the protection of men, which is sexism.

    As an equalitarian, I believe capability depends on the individual, not their gender and/or race.
     
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    Egaliatrianism and individualism are opposites and therefore one cannot be both an engaliatrian and an "individualist" at the same time. I am 100% individualist and therefore I do not believe in egaliatarianism. Egaliatarianism hampers individuality. Imagine we have someone who is a realy good singer, but sucks at baking and someone who is a great baker but a terrible singer. Nature per se is not egalitarian and fore these two, an application of egalitarianism would mean they both would have to stop doing what they do best which mean society loses a singer and a baker.

    :)
     
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    I'm not an egalitarian. I'm an equalitarian
     
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    Really, I see you are doing exactly the same as the other poster by projecting what you want to be true in order to cover up your own failings because in reality you cannot find a single comment of mine that even comes close to what you are attempting to project.
     
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    Is it possible that tall, stronger men need to eat more food than women and need taller ceilings to feel as happy with their space? Can stronger men do more work? Could this maybe justify a 94 cent pay gap, or is that too sexist?
     

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