I knew this day would come, I just didn't know when

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    That isn't the issue, the issue is that when all considerations are taken into account, there is still an approx 5% pay-gap that cannot be accounted for [MENTION=63713]ryobi[/MENTION] likes to make the assumption that this is also down to some sort of factors, but can not offer any evidence what so ever to them .. even his favourite study cannot provide answers for that 5%, he then usually accuses me of a number of things when in reality all I have ever said is that the 5% gap could be down to either factors not found yet or discrimination based on gender . .we simply do not know, yet ryobi states absolutely that he does know - seems he is better equipped and has done far more complex studies than ALL the others put together :roll:
     
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    Do shorter men get less pay ?

    Why do you think that if stronger men could do more work they do or they will ?


    Do you have proof that all men are bigger and stronger than all women?

    Do you have proof that all men are taller and stronger than all men? :)



    Ya, saying that men are all tall and strong and so do more or better work or work harder than women is sexist...and pretty silly.....


    I don't want to debate this, just ask yourself the questions ands see what YOU come up with...
     
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    There is no difference according to the dictionary.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/equalitarian

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/equalitarian

     
  4. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, shorter guys do get paid more than taller guys.

    Yes, the average guy is 5 inches taller than the average woman, and a lot more powerful.

    Yes, when I worked in the office, if a box of copy paper needed to be lifted, they had me do it. I watched them try once, and she was struggling. I'm sure they appreciated having me there. I probably earned my 5 cents.
     
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    For what, stumping your sexism with facts and questions you can't answer??
     
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    Hyperlinks....use them. That's why they were invented.
     
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    I don't like equality either.
     
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    There is no remainder.

    Once individual choices are taken into account it vanishes
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Read the report, it doesn't say that.
     
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    ryobi Well-Known Member

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    It wouldn't matter if I gave you a link to the story, unless you decided to subscribe to that newspaper because you have to have a subscription to the newspaper to read the articles in it...
     
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    Well then that's another difference between Norwegians and Swedes then because I believe in gender and racial equality...
     
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    The BLS does say it and their information is.more.accurate.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    The report I linked to IS THE BLS report :roll:
     
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    Wouldn't say t is just to take my rather controversial opinions and let them speak for all Swedes. Most Swedes are in fact very much for equality and love all that the term "equality" connotes. Additionally, I am not even ethnically Swedish.

    I only stand for equality on a very basic level: Same rights and obligations for all and no special treatments or quotas or stupid "protection laws" no matter what. Equalitarianism generally has to come with some sort of force which generally is a bad thing is it not?

    When all comes around I am highly uninterested in physical attributes anyways and more interested in the persona when it comes to judging someone and that is why I do not identify as an egalitarian/equalitarian, because if I believe both in the individual and equality at the same time it would mean no more individuality.
     
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    You consistently misstate their findings.

    They have proven there is no pay gap,
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Nope it does not
     
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    This post is amusing, as in having wit, or humor to it. Normally when I find one of these, I prefer to think it consistent with the intent of the poster rather than accidental. Some writers like to produce that affect. Some readers cannot fathom dry humor so the intent has to be explained or they get all bent out of shape and rude.

    As for me, I sit and imagine a wry smile on your face as you type. I liked it.
     
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    Yes it does sorry but he evidence does not lie only you are.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    nope it does not, the only person lying here is you.

    Here is a quote from the very report you say proves there is no wage gap, when it reality it does not.

    The study titled “An analysis of the reasons for the disparity between the wages of men and women” was prepared for The United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Division in 2009 by the CONSAD research corporation.

    "it has not been possible to develop reliable estimates of the total percentage of the raw gender wage gap for which all of the factors that have been separately found to contribute to the gap collectively account. In this study, an attempt has been made to use data from a large cross-sectional database, the Outgoing Rotation Group files of the 2007 CPS, to construct variables that satisfactorily characterize factors whose effects have previously been estimated only using longitudinal data, so that reliable estimates of those effects can be derived in an analysis of the cross-sectional data. Specifically, variables have been developed to represent career interruption among workers with specific gender, age, and number of children. Statistical analysis that includes those variables has produced results that collectively account for between 65.1 and 76.4 percent of a raw gender wage gap of 20.4 percent, and thereby leave an adjusted gender wage gap that is between 4.8 and 7.1 percent.


    Additional portions of the raw gender wage gap are attributable to other explanatory factors that have been identified in the existing economic literature, but cannot be analyzed satisfactorily using only data from the 2007 CPS.
    want to apologise for your lying?
     
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    It is you lying and providing no links.

    The BLS has reams of study and they do not show what you claim

    Run along now
     
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