I Refuse to Believe in Gravity

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  1. Felix (R)

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    They havent been debunked. Where are you getting this from. You have mentioned photos from a ballon. The ''poles'' are of course not cennected. A line on a peice of paper will not take
    Me to philadelphia, much less the edge of the earth.
     
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    Now see you berate me for assumtions and then assume that I assmume all people from Turkey learn science from the Qu'ran. No, it was simple implicit association. Istanbul 1453, muslim conquerers, Islam. Thats all, considering you are from turkey I would not deem it problematic resoning to suspect you are at least partially aware of your countries historical involvement with Islam. I thought you might appreciate the information, if I thought wrong and you have no appreciation whatsoever (either as a benefit to the book or as more evidence as to why it is false) than thats fine with me. I could just have rightly posted a complicated equation and been wrong that you might appreciate that. You may, you may not. Considering the minimal risk involved, I wasnt too worried about it.
     
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    Man, it was in the middle ages! :omg: Turkey demolished the Islamic caliphate in 1924 and declared that Turkey would go with her secular institutions.

    No need to mention that Turkey's educational system is also secular.

    Though I appreciate your effort to teach me my own country's history when you have no idea about it at all.
     
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    I wasnt trying to teach you, most islamic states are secular from what I understand. Its part of western adoption and modernization, one of the reasons the fundamentalists are so angry. I said implicit association.
     
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    Okay cool. I hope you learned something new today. So be careful when you quote another Muslim's post to disprove it with the false science in the Qur'an nex time.
     
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    Thousands of years of human navigation, our aerospace, satellite and navigation technology.
    The fact that we have two distinct unconnected poles means your "ice-wall" theory is wrong.
    But traveling in a straight line on a flat surface will.
     
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    I have shown you a picture of the earth as a flat earth and you still do not understand. Explain to me how you would travel in a straight line, I have already explained why this would not work as you suspect.
     
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    Why would I be careful? You speak to me as if there is an element of danger involved. What was there to learn, I mentioned a few things as to why implicit association was able to exist in the particular subjective fashion which it did. When did I attempt to employ faux science of the qu'ran, I simply stated a fun fact.
     
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    A: When did you do that?
    B: I understand that your theory is wrong.
    A: No, you never explained how a straight line cannot be traveled.
    B: To walk in a straight line, don't turn. It's like drawing on flat paper.

    You keep making claims that are untrue and deny elementary-school knowledge.
     
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    My avatar was a picture depicting the earth as being flat about 2 days ago, you submitted posts while the picture was uploaded.

    Yes, if you were to travel in a straight line you would eventually reach the ice. I was just curious as to how you thought you would navigate a straight line successfully.
     
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    You could always read the book Earth Not A Globe by Rowbotham.
     
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    hi guys,

    im german so please excuse my mistakes... im here to practice my english skills :)

    so you can correct me if im wrong.. ;)


    i do believe in gravity. its the # 1 thing that holds all and the universe together. how can somebody not believe in gravity? gravity keeps you ON the ground!!?!? i believe you meant ANTI GRAVITY!?!? didnt you??

    well, i can say that it exists too! you wont believe met this but i have experienced it myself! the gravity was so high that i took off the ground!!! it was amazing... ;)
     
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    Its not about belief in whether there is a force keeping us from drifting away, the question this thread pertains to is the nature of that force. And also the perpetuation of a vast and perfidious plot to fool the people of the world to accumulate extreme wealth. NASA and KFC are the major players which has been proven. KFC has even caught the attention of Saudi Arabian investigators. Those who ignore the facts will eventually have to face them.
     
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    hi, thanks.
    what is KFC what does it stand for?`and what exactly does the NASA have to do with time manipulation ( if i understood you correctly...):omg:
     
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    Must not have been looking at your avatar? Are you talking about the UN symbol?
    Unlike you, I believe navigation is possible by following the stars, using modern navigation, satellites and GPS technology. Most people have GPS in their phones now, so it's something readily testable. We know it's possible to travel in a straight line.

    In any case, even if we have been traveling in curved lines, we've explored or observed every place on Earth. Humans are natural explorers and our curiosity, has taken us to chart the North and South Pole. It's done, there is no more to explore because we have circumnavigated the entire world in several directions.
     
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    Yes, the U.N probably know all about it which is why they chose such a realistic, yet odd logo. Considering GPS is run by NASA, KFC its not a very trustworthy means of travel in terms of reaching the edge.
     
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    Knowledge of Gravitrons is not necessary to understand the theory of gravitation, however you must have some basic explanation of how dark matter accelerates the earth and all other objects in order to believe what you do. I think what I am asking is for specifics, I would like to understand in some way what you believe dark matter does and how it affects objects in space.
     
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    My understanding is of a flat earth. DE as an accelerating force much like the two proposed 'hypothetical' forms of DE, (cosmological constant, and scalar fields, charged with the expansion of the universe ) is what we have deemed to be the force behind the earths upward acceleration.
     
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    Though according to all traditional understandings of Dark matter it accelerates all matter appart from all other matter, not in a single direction. Why do you believe that the acceleration provided by Dark matter is in a single direction, and what is your explanation for this phenomenon?
     
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    Kennedy Flight Center, or Kentucky Fried Chicken.


    You have two different threads confused. You have posted on both 'time' and 'gravity' threads and must have
    made a mistake as I have posts on each of them as well.
     
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    Dark matter is hypothosized due to discrepencies throughout the universe. There are several different theories as to how and why things work the way they do. There are different theories regarding UA and DE with flat earth (FE) as well. I do not have an explaination for the phenomenon. There are great Flat Earth Scientists currently working and developing new theories to explain these things.
     
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    So you believe in this, but can't explain how it works in even the simplest terms? I suggest that before you come on a thread and argue arduously for a theory you understand what it entails and how it works in a fundamental sense.
     
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    I know my girlfriends mazda runs, but cannot explain how it does entirely. I could still argue its ability to operate as I have observed it doing so. You could only offer one of several theories pertaining to how our universe operates.
    All of them can be rebuked by opposing theories which gives way for dark matter to make up for several discrepancies. Being the earth is flat, one may hypothesize how the effects of alleged gravity may take place and what force allows this. I would agree with you if we were discussing things that are not based on theory and hypothesis however DE; DM, DL, AM are all hypothesized as to their exact nature. Therefore you cannot rightly and factually explain to me how the earth was made, and according to you, you should not be defending its shape as the forming thereof is entirely based on a theory, actually several. You may very well have a simple explaination as to how one of them works. My simple explaination is that DE accellerates the earth upwards producing the same effects of said gravity.
     
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    I think that man has actually went into space and took pictures of the earth. It looked kinda like a globe with a bulge in the middle... to me. I did not see anything that looked like a cylinder.

    The only problem (I know of) with gravity is that science has not found a particle responsable for for said force.

    I am still trying to understand how people know how much matter is in the universe. Or even how much it is supposed to have. How much mass does the average black hole contain?
     
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    In order to believe in a theory, such as your theory of a flat earth and universal acceleration one must know the laws of physics, and have observed evidence that alludes to some truth that will compose the theory. You however seem to begin from the theory and be trying to add anecdotal evidence and claims that have no explanation that you can scientifically substantiate, even with a high school level explanation. I can explain to you what gravity is and how it formed a spherical earth, can you explain how there came to be a flat planet that is accelerated at a constant rate. You have no idea nor proof of how dark matter would accelerate an object in a single direction and presume to question established science? If you want to challenge a theory you gather evidence and observe the world around you, this is what one does in order to prove or disprove science, but instead you presume to challenge scientists with claims of moonshrimp and kfc conspiracies.
     

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