I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the other question then, is if 18-year-old girl can take testosterone to be more like a man, why can't an 18-year-old boy
     
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    So it’s fine for adults right?
     
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    I think the reason is obvious.
     
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    I wouldn't say fine I think it's predatory and kind of a con artist thing but adults have free will. If they can go get conversion therapy they can go get whatever bizarre make believe therapy they want.
     
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    You think the more restrained view on this institute of great evil controlled by Satan himself because that's what seems obvious to me.
     
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    I don’t know what any of that means
     
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    It means it's obvious you are a conspiracy theorist.
     
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    Because I asked a question? It’s not like forced gay conversion therapy of teens isn’t a thing.
     
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    You asked a question about something nobody said.
     
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    Missouri AG opens probe into trans children's clinic

    'The testimony of a former “gender transition manager” at Missouri’s Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and the “morally and medically appalling” procedures being performed there. Andrew Bailey, Missouri’s new Attorney General, has confirmed that his office has opened a probe into the clinic, looking into the practices that ” harm hundreds of kids” every year.'

    'A “full investigation into these shocking allegations” was launched two weeks ago, the prosecutor said.'

    'The staff at that clinic have been giving experimental drugs to children, as well as distributing puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones. And perhaps even more alarming, they have been doing this without parental consent in some cases.'

    'The doctors at that clinic don’t just need to be investigated. They don’t just need to have their licenses taken away, though that clearly should happen as well. They need to be prosecuted and put behind bars. This is blatant child abuse and putting some of them in prison might send a message to the other supposed medical professionals at too many facilities around the country who are permanently and irreversibly harming children in this fashion.'
     
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    Is it? i don't recall that. But what I have seen is all manner of make a buck types who claimed that folks who are gay could be "reprogrammed".. kind of sounds like what progressives are suggesting, like always. So, really, it isn't funny. It's sad. It is sad that folks thought they could rely on the "experts" who told them that being gay was a condition that could be "cured". That actually is sad. And it seems you're part of that camp, no?
     
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    THERE SHOULD BE A THOROUGH REVIEW OF STUDIES ‘SUPPORTING’ THESE INTERVENTIONS: Missouri AG officially probing ‘disturbing’ whistleblower claim that transgender clinic ‘harming hundreds’ of kids.

    'Missouri’s new attorney general says his office has been investigating “disturbing allegations” that a transgender center has “been harming hundreds of children each year.”'

    This is terrible irreversible harm.

    'Andrew Bailey confirmed the probe Thursday after whistleblower Jamie Reed, 42, came forward with damning allegations about the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children’s Hospital.

    'A “full investigation into these shocking allegations” was launched two weeks ago, the Republican prosecutor said.'

    '“The Office has already received a sworn affidavit from the whistleblower and documents that support her allegations,” his office said, sharing a copy of the 23-page document.'

    'The university also said it was “alarmed” by the allegations and was “taking this matter very seriously” with its own investigation.'

    '“We take this evidence seriously and are thoroughly investigating to make sure children are not harmed by individuals who may be more concerned with a radical social agenda than the health of children,” he said.'

    'Reed quit the center in November after four years because of “morally and medically appalling” practices.'

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    'Staff used “experimental drugs on children, distributing puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones without individualized assessment, and even giving children these life-altering drugs without parental consent.”'

    Once permission was given it was viewed as irrevocable
    'It also included “when a parent stated that they were revoking consent” for such treatment.'

    'That has “led children to attempt suicide,” but “the Center never discontinues prescribing cross-sex hormones, no matter how much those drugs are harming the child.”

    '“The whistleblower also has provided documentary evidence that the Center has been unlawfully billing state taxpayers to fund these actions,” the prosecutor’s office said.'

    Hell yeah, the billings are the point.

    'The university, meanwhile, said it was “alarmed by the allegations.”'

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    No, pretty consistent about accepting people as they are so long as they don't harm others.

    It was conservatives who believed gay people should pray the gay away. Though I guess more common was just to exclude them from marriage and adoption.

    You seem confused on what drives gender dysphoria
     
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    LOL.... given the first comment, it suggests that your previous trolling then wasn't you? To be fair, you cannot cite a source for your second claim. As noted, lots of folks who conned parents of all stripes into believing that "praying the gay away" or "aversion therapy" etc (a group of grift minded providers.. likely all credentialed liberals) would "save" their kids from a life of pain and angst because they were gay. How many examples of this do you think it would take to reinforce this point for you?

    I don't pretend I know what causes folks to want to not be their gender. I know the manifestation of it though. I am familiar with many men who hated being gay who fantasized about becoming women so it wasn't abhorrent to them that they were gay. And being a woman would make them attractive to straight guys who they lusted after. They just thought that gay wasn't normal. And they wanted to become normal. Even though it could never be achieved. Their fantasy was stronger than the medical solutions out there.
     
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    No idea what you're talking about.

    You seriously don't remember conservatives asserting homosexuality is a choice? Is that how conservatives keep being wrong about social issues, they move on to a new victim and forget why they were wrong before? PolitiFact | Texas Republicans: Homosexuality “a chosen behavior”

    No, Mr. Garrison from South Park is not the archetype of gender dysphoria.
     
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    Florida—Come for the Sunshine, Stay for the Rejection of Trans Fascism. “What laws like this will really accomplish is pumping the brakes on a runaway social trend that will probably see a lot of buyer’s remorse in the none-too-distant future.”

    'Florida medical boards passed a rule preventing minors from being given puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, or gender transition surgery — causing outrage in the trans cult. But new legislation proposed this week takes a different approach that I’m sure the cult will have a hard time figuring out how to respond to.'

    'The new bill, called the Reverse Woke Act, flips the gender transition movement on its head by requiring employers that provide coverage for gender transition procedures also to provide coverage for de-transitioning. It even puts employers on the hook for de-transitioning coverage for people who are no longer employed by the company if they worked there when they transitioned.'

    THAT MEANS ON THE HOOK FOR A POTENTIAL LIFETIME OF MEDICAL CARE TRYING TO UNDO THE HARM FROM THE 'TRANSITION' THEY WERE LOVE BOMBED INTO.

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    'The woke corporations that now plague the United States love to champion anything that shows up waving a pride flag. They often make big political statements by offering to pay for employees in Big Meanie red states to go to blue states and have medical procedures done that are restricted or illegal at home. Florida doesn’t play that game:'

    '“Woke businesses need to be held accountable when offering to pay for gender affirming surgeries in other states, such as California because they are nothing more than political decisions masquerading as healthcare and human resource decisions,” [Sen. Blaise] Ingoglia said in a press release. “Floridians should not be used as political pawns to advance a leftist agenda for the Governor of California. If these companies truly cared about their employees, this should be a no-brainer for them.”'

    Send a Floridian to CA to get carved up, and in FL you will be liable for a lifetime of undoing the harm to those who want to detransition.

    'Corporate eagerness to fund life-altering medical procedures like gender transitioning and abortion is creepy. People should have to pause and take longer to make decisions about such things. They don’t need bosses who fling open the checkbooks and say, “Have at it!”'

    WELL, IF THEY DO, THEY NEED TO KEEP THE WALLET OPEN FOR DETRANSITION EXPENSES.

    'This steep spike in gender transitions we’ve been witnessing may be a mass leftist peer-pressure phenomenon. If so, we will probably see a spike in people de-transitioning in a few years. Let’s see if woke CEOs want to make a bet that won’t happen.'
     
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    Bring on the investigation!
     
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    I think that FL's pending legislation is going to catch on. You pay for transition, then you also have to fund detransition.
     
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    Are you saying He-Man didn't look kind of gay? Look at him again.
     
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    You DO know that this will put no one off?

    Look, if it were just confused people with mental health issues that would be one thing but keep in mind that between 1.5 and 2% of babies are born “intersex” with ambiguous genitalia. What if the majority of cases actually turn out to have one of the multitude of underlying genetic conditions causing this? Would you still want the place closed down?
     
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    Those “preying the gay away”. Oooops I meant “Praying the Gay away” were almost invariably right wing christians
     
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    And now the left wing are mutillating children in their “chop the mental health issue off”.

    Unfortunately the left took a mundane, yet ineffective right wing tactic and said “hold my beer”…and created one of their own that actually harms children in a very tangible way.
     
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