I Thought I Was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Distinguishable intersex at birth is 1 in 1500 to 1 in 2000 births. So 0.06.7% and 0.05%. And no, those are not the folks that are raising the concerns, and you full well know that.

    https://isna.org/faq/frequency/
     
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    NOPE!
    From your article

    At the top of your link was
    [QUOTE]The Intersex Society of North America closed its doors and stopped updating this website in 2008. ISNA’s work is continued by interACT: Advocates for Intersex Youth, who proudly preserves this website as a historical archive. For current information, links to intersex support groups, and to connect with intersex advocates, please head to interACT: Advocates for Intersex Youth.[/QUOTE]

    Ummmm- hate to break it to you but the science has advanced since then

    https://www.americanprogress.org/article/key-issues-facing-people-intersex-traits/
    https://www.health.vic.gov.au/populations/health-of-people-with-intersex-variations
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK557435/
     
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  3. Zorro

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    Fake news. You specifically asked about genital differences distinguishable at birth.
     
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    And you quoted out of date data and are now retrying to deny it. Truth is that we have discovered more and more about the physiological underpinnings to intersex and disorders of sexual development. Yes medical personnel SHOULD be held accountable for advice given and outcomes of treatment and that is why I said bring on the investigation. But this applies to ALL treatments including those peddled by the likes of Alex Jones.
     
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    Yes. And those that fund transition, need to also fund detransition.
     
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    Think this through - how will this affect those who, in the future, would like to sue the ones who, purportedly “forced them into transition”
     
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    They would defend themselves the same way anyone else does that demonstrates that they met the legal standard of "A reasonable person acting prudently."

    Many of these detransitioners state that they were never told about the health hazards, the lifetime of medical care or the irreversibility of the drugs and surgeries. One young girl asked them to reattach her breasts, obviously completely unaware of the impossibility of this task.

    The defense would be documented proof that the risks and permanence were adequately communicated and that the patient affirmed their intelligent understanding. In the business world this is routinely accomplished by producing the course and the completed test that demonstrates their knowledge of the material covered.

    The younger a person is, were I on the jury, the more likely I would find that the youthful person was not of sufficient maturity to make these decisions.

    Now all of that would be my tendency toward sanctions. For funding reversal care, I would make that no-fault. That gives whoever is funding the transition skin in the game to make sure the patient is wholly on board with irreversible changes.

    In the States, we commonly have a 3 day right of recession, no questions asked, on construction jobs, car purchases, home financing and so forth. Certainly one should have the same before a young girl gets her perfectly healthy breasts sliced off by a money hungry doctor.

    We also have routine waiting periods to purchase a firearm. So a waiting period makes a lot of sense here, too. Currently, it is my understanding, that a young girl can go into Planned Parenthood, have a short consultation, and walk out with Testosterone, a heavily controlled drug.

    But, if a person has Gender Dysphoria, a very dangerous mental condition, and especially combined with Autism, which there is some evidence is heavily implicated in young people seeking out these irreversible treatments, are they even able to provide intelligent consent? I doubt that they could just buy a car and finance it, or make a firearms purchase.
     
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    MEDIA DRIVEN MASS HYSTERIA: Gender dysphoria in young people is rising—and so is professional disagreement.

    'More children and adolescents are identifying as transgender and offered medical treatment, especially in the US. But some providers and European authorities are urging caution because of a lack of strong evidence.'

    'More adolescents with no history of gender dysphoria are presenting at gender clinics. For example, a recent analysis of insurance claims found that nearly 18,000 US minors began taking puberty blockers or hormones from 2017 to 2021, the number rising each year.'

    'Meanwhile, the number of US private clinics focused on providing hormones and surgeries have grown from just a few a decade ago to more than 100 today.'

    'Sweden's National Board of Health and Welfare, which sets guidelines for care, determined earlier this year that the risks of puberty blockers and treatment with hormones "currently outweigh the possible benefits" for minors.'

    'NHS England, which is in the midst of an independent review of gender identity services, recently stated that there is "scarce and inconclusive evidence to support clinical decision-making" for minors with gender dysphoria, and that for most who present before puberty it will be a "transient phase," requiring clinicians to focus on psychological support and to be "mindful" of the risks of even social transition'

    Caution.
     
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    Cruz: You're giving hormones to children as young as eight?

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    'a licensed social worker at the facility said they had patients as young as eight years old receiving transgender treatments.'

    “a child that is eight years old, does not have the maturity to make permanent life-altering decisions,” he said. “We see institutions across the country performing genital mutilation, performing surgeries where they remove perfectly healthy genitals from children, little boys or little girls, making them no longer able to have children for the rest of their lives. That is horrific. I think that’s child abuse.”'

    'Cruz has partnered with Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) to look into what is going on at Dell Children’s Medical Center.'

    Good. They may need a grand jury.
     
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    Based on a video by “veritas” :roll:

    This is the WIKI entry!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas

    How bad do you have to be for that to be the START of the wiki page on you?

     
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    Zorro. Why is no one on the right looking into the rise of EDCs (Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals) leached by plastics?
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281309/

    Stop blaming the medical staff trying to deal with this issue and start looking at the root cause
     
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    How about telling them they are perfect the way they are so they can grow up happy and self-confident?
     
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    Lol so trans people are just a result of bad parenting? really?
     
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    Doesn’t work when their peers are telling them otherwise. I cannot think of anything harder than not being able to fit into any group - especially sex when all the kids around you are discovering that aspect of themselves. I still think the best way is the Polynesian way of accepting four genders
     
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    There's a much stronger argument that can be made for "born homosexual" than "born transgender".

    Even if you do feel they're on a continuum, transgender treatment for children is way farther down there on the slope, bending ever more steeply towards oblivion.
    (like one of those black hole coin funnels for donations you used to see in malls)

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    Is it? I have seen a LOT of unfounded claims but no real evidence

    BTW Why is no one addressing the reason why there may be an increase in transgenderism in the first place - proliferation of ENDOCRINE DISRUPTING CHEMICALS.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281309/

    https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-030-38366-4_11-1
     
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    All the LESS reason to treat the disorder with surgery.
     
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    Where did I say that? Bad parenting is telling them they were born defective and require drugs and irreversible surgery to "repair", or telling them they are an abomination and will burn for eternity if they don't convert.
     
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    Interesting. So you believe projecting an outer to peers is worth irreversible surgery? Looking back, did efforts to gain approval from peers provide any long term benefits? I remember what it felt like not to fit in and can tell you the best thing I did for myself was stop giving a F.
     
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    Disturbing Democrat Trans Cult Thinks It Owns Your Children. “At this point, I often think that anything short of abolishing the Dept. of Education is merely putting a butterfly band-aid on a severed carotid artery.”

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    'Despite the very public pushback against them in recent years, the predatory Democrat Trans Cult is still in full force, mobilized, and coming for your children. These people are relentless and operating under the' false claim 'that they’re compassionate.'

    'The coastal bubble Dems are all on board with the push to normalize conversations about sexuality between 8-year-olds and any random adults they interact with during the day at school. In their telling of the story, every other third-grader in America is trapped in the wrong body and agonizing to be liberated by a compassionate public educator.'

    'White House Spokeditz Karine Jean-Pierre is the latest prominent Democrat to let us know that America’s children belong to the collective. '

    'Willing or not, here they come. The destructive transgender cult has become so confident and aggressive that White House Press Secretary and professional liar Karine Jean-Pierre just echoed Joe Biden and declared that parents have no right to object to transgender surgeries: “These are our kids. They belong to all of us.”'
     
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    So case workers know more than the actual doctors and psychiatrists do?
     
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    If only the authoritarian right would take your advice and quit being snowflakes, stop giving a F, and leave medical decisions in the hands where they belong instead of pushing for the Nanny State to force their personal views on others.
     
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    There are still people backwards and uneducated enough to believe that homosexuality is a mental illness?
     
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    There are people who without proof, claim that one is "born homosexual"

    What test do you perform that one is born wanting sex with same-sex partners?

    your point?
     
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    There is actual evidence of that, but even if there weren't, that wouldn't make it a mental illness. My point is that the blind belief that it is a mental illness is pure superstition.
     

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