IDF STATEMENT "No malice in the killing of the 3 hostages"

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If you would please read the source I cited earlier in "Jewish Currents", you might see that many of the things you've been led to believe are false:

"A Textbook Case of Genocide"
https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

"Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?"

I've both spent time in the Middle East which allowed for me to hear both sides of the narrative and have followed events closely there since the '67 War in which Israel deliberately murdered 34 American G.I.s and attempted to massacre the entire crew.

When I read that LBJ recalled US fighters sent to rescue the USS Liberty two times because he feared the Israeli lobbies more than he valued the lives of American G.I.s, I knew that America was and is in trouble because of its unconditional support for any and every Israeli atrocity, war crime or betrayal.

In spite of the repeated Israeli betrayals and relentless foreign aid parasitism, I realize that the malevolence of the right wing Israeli government is not universally supported by all Israeli Jews so it is not accurate to say that all Israelis support genocide.

On the other hand, almost half of Israel's Jews support ethnic cleansing (1) which is distressing coming from a country that so crassly exploits the Holocaust.

While much has been made of the tragic yet suspicious event of 7 October 2023, more and more eyewitnesses are debunking Israeli propaganda about "baby beheadings" and laying most of the blame for killed hostages on trigger happy IDF members. (2)

Recently, a perfect but tragic example was when trigger happy IDF members gunned down semi naked hostages waving white flags. Imagine how quickly they would gun down someone guilty of being a fully clothed Palestinian.

Finally, there are many reasons that the vast majority of the world condemns Israel's murderous foray into Gaza as a Genocide but nothing made Israel's genocidal intent any more blatant than Defense Minister, Gallant promise to deny Gaza's civilians food, water, fuel and electricity; a certain execution of additional tens of thousands.
Earlier genocidal miscreants like Genrikh Yagoda, Leonid Reichman etc were hung, shot or met similar grisly ends and in a just world, Netanyahu, Gallant and their henchmen deserve similar fates.

This inexcusable massacre stopped being about "Israel's defense" after the first 1,200 Hamas members were killed...

...after that, it became vengeance and it has long since become genocide in the eyes of Jews and non Jews.

Thanks,



(1). “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found." CONTINUED


(2). “Report: 7 October testimonies strike major blow to Israeli narrative”
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...nies-strikes-major-blow-to-israeli-narrative/

EXCERPT “New first-hand accounts from witnesses of Israel’s clashes with Hamas militants on 7 October suggest that, in their desperation to contain the surprise incursion, Israeli troops indiscriminately fired on their own citizens with heavy weaponry, resulting in potentially scores of Israeli deaths from so-called “friendly fire”.

Unverified claims circulated by Israel that Hamas militants beheaded 40 babies on 7 October were widely rejected as propaganda which, critics argue, was designed to garner sympathy for Israel to carry out collective punishment of Gaza’s 2.2 million.

However, a closer examination of events by The Grayzone tells a different story: one in which the Israeli military itself bears responsibility for numerous civilian deaths. The emerging details not only contradict the Israeli government’s version of events, but indicate that, in the chaos of battle, reckless Israeli fire likely led to significant casualties among the Israeli population.” CONTINUED


(3). "Stalin's Jews"

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED

 

Israel has been explicit about one thing after Oct 7 with regard to Gaza. Hamas must be completely eradicated from Gaza for the good of both Israeli and Gazan civilians.

 

Even at the expense of the Jewish hostages, three of whom, we are being told today, were "gassed like in aushwitz by the IDF" according to a mother of one of the soldiers who died in the tunnels on 23 December.

 

All civilian deaths in Gaza both Israeli and Gazan are the responsibility of Hamas. Hamas initiated the current conflict, Hamas fires rockets from civilian sites, Hamas took civilian hostages, Hamas goals are to kill Jews and destroy Israel, Hamas uses human shields, Hamas recruits and indoctrinates children to kill, and Hamas is a terrorist organization funded by Iran.

 

Sounds much like Israel but funded by usa

 

All civilian deaths in Gaza both Israeli and Gazan are the responsibility of IDF, period

Israel initiated the current conflict with their brutal expansion in the west bank and continued imprisonment of gazans.

Israel deliberately target civilians and journalists and aid workers.

IDF has killed many civilian hostages

Net and yahoo today stated that he intended to ethnically cleanse the entire region, it's goals are to kill Arabs and destroy Palestine, as he told us officials today.

Israel uses human shields as a first line of defense (kibbutz on Oct 7)

Israel recruits white JewISH European mercenaries from around the globe (there was a protest in London today for a returning IDF soldier who filmed himself sniffing a woman's underpants in a house he raided in Gaza) and indoctrinates it's children to kill as this children's song shows:



Israel is a terrorist organization according to social scholar Noam Chomsky and they are largely funded by usa, another nation that Chomsky calls the leading terrorist state. Chomsky states that USA and Israel are the top two nations in the world in terms of terrorism.

NOW CAN YOU PLEASE STICK WITH THE TOPIC AND STOP TRYING TO DEFLECT FROM THE SUBJECT WHICH IS ISRAELIS KILLING HOSTAGES, THANKS.

 

Israel would not control the West Bank if Jordan did not attack them in 1967.

 

Ronstar,
CAN YOU PLEASE STICK WITH THE TOPIC AND STOP TRYING TO DEFLECT FROM THE SUBJECT WHICH IS ISRAELIS KILLING HOSTAGES, THANKS.

 

I responded to your comment, which is within the rules to do.

 

And I was responding to another off topic comment and ended by stating to stay on topic. Please don't continue derailing a subject and antagonizing even further, thanks.

 

The topic is "No malice in the killing of the 3 hostages"

You and others keep claiming that there was malice in the killing of the 3 hostages. That claim is not correct.

 

malice
noun
mal·ice ˈma-ləs

Synonyms of malice
1
: desire to cause pain, injury, or distress to another


Does the Hannibal directive show malice?

Yes sir.

 

The Hannibal Doctrine is not about hurting Israelis, it is about using deadly force against kidnappers even if there is a chance the kidnapee may be harmed.

 

There was no desire to kill the Israeli citizens. An IDF soldier or soldiers made a mistake. As stated by the IDF they did not follow the IDF's rules of engagement.

 

Wrong.

 

wrong.
The Hannibal directive express purpose is the will to kill Israeli citizens.

 

LOL!!!

No, I am right.

The Hannibal Doctrine is about preventing Israelis from being captured, by using deadly force to try to stop the kidnapping.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive

 

The Hannibal directive gives permission to kill Israeli citizens.

 

No, the Hannibal Doctrine says you are allowed to use deadly force to try to prevent a kidnapping.

It does not ever say "you are allowed to target the kidnap victim while trying to prevent them from being kidnapped".

 

https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2011-11-01/ty-article/0000017f-ed21-d0f7-a9ff-efe591e30000

The Chief of Staff for combat commanders: the Hannibal procedure does not allow the killing of a soldier to prevent a kidnapping:

Gantz clarified that it is possible to risk a life to prevent a kidnapping, but intentionally harming a soldier is prohibited

The order, which was formulated following several incidents in the security zone in southern Lebanon, allowed the commanders to act in a way that could endanger the life of the kidnapped soldier, with the aim of thwarting the kidnapping

 

We have been through this before. Proof was posted showing that your statement regarding the Hannibal directive is not correct.

 

There is no written order that it is better to kill an Israeli then to allow them be kidnapped.

 

There is some poetry by W.H. Auden back around 1939 that describes the mindset of the Palestinians and others: "Those to whom evil is done, do evil in return".

Since 1948 the Israelis have belligerently been killing and taking land from the people of Palestine. The zionist goals of Greater Israel are well documented. Israeli efforts to expand in the area at the expense of other inhabitants are well known.

The terrorists are Israeli (and christian) zionists.

 

What really happened is that since 1948 Arab nations have been attempting to take territory from the nation of Israeli and as a result have lost territory in every conflict. Had the Arabs accepted the 1947 United Nations partition plan and agreed to live in peace the tragic loss of life which has taken place over the last 7 decades would not have occurred.

 

So if squatters throws you out and takes your house and your neighbours try and help you get your house back but lose theirs to the squatters friends, it will be your's and your neighbours fault that they lost their homes?