IDF STATEMENT "No malice in the killing of the 3 hostages"

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    By deception we shall wage war, says the Israelis, and boy oh boy, are they good at deception.

    They killed and wounded many US sailors back in 1967, and planned and arranged the events of 11 September. Don't know about you, but I cannot consider people like that (a government like that) to be an ally.

    Ike handled Israel correctly back in the day with ben Gurion, but it's been downhill ever since.
     
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    If you have a point please make it.
     
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    I think it's been made, but you're not willing to discuss it, the criminality of the Israeli government, especially under the toxic leadership of Bibi.
     
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    The Victims of the Atrocity were semi nude, hands up, carrying a white flag.
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    he FACT that they were Jewish is totally Irrelevant, as it would be irrelevant if
    they were confirmed Terrorists. They were in the irrefutable act of total surrender
    - They were shot down DEAD by the "Worlds Most Moral Army" in the same
    ...... manner as inbred red-necks shoot wild PIGs. and with the same consideration

    To suggest that it was done "without malice" and was simply a TRAGIC mistake
    ............................ goes beyond Ridiculous and enters the realm of the Obscene

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    The Israelis planned the AQ attack on the US in 9/11/01?? Wow, never heard that whopper before.

    The accidental attack on the USS Liberty has been discussed in detail days ago.


    — Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East by Michael B. Oren
    https://a.co/3WmxUJW
     
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    Again I don’t get your point. What specifically are you talking about?
     
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    How did these extremely valuable (to Hamas) unarmed hostages escape from armed Hamas guard behind locked doors and make their way partially clothed through a Hamas controlled urban area to the front lines? This was most likely planned by Hamas. The accidental killing by battle fatigued IDF soldiers who understandably did not follow their rules of engagement was the result hoped for by Hamas.
     
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    Unlawful, Unethical, Horrifying': IDF Ethics Code Author on Alleged Use of 'Hannibal Directive' During Hamas Attack
    Asa Kasher, the philosopher who wrote the IDF's Code of Conduct, tells Haaretz that incidents in which the infamous operational order may have been used on October 7 must be investigated immediately: 'There is absolutely nothing [in the code] to allow someone to kill an Israeli citizen, in uniform or not' -haaretz
     
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    have no doubt that Hamas Terrorists could be capable of such a sick ploy.
    As far as they were concerned they knew in their mind that:

    They could assume that, "The slavering Hate filled monsters of The Worlds Most
    Moral Army
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    would be quick to jump at the opportunity to shed Blood, and so they
    pushed their hostages out the door. In such a case, these perverts would no doubt think
    their Crime, a fine joke and that the ensuing results would only confirm their assumptions

    But that in no way absolves the members of the IDF of their Crime and only served to
    validate Hamas Terrorists in their view that "The Worlds Most Moral Army" is
    populated by a bunch of "slavering Hate filled maniacs, who are quick to shed Blood"
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    nd any attempt to pass this Crime of as the result of Fatigue is seen as an empty,
    weak wristed attempt to Rationalize a dirty Hate inspired move

    Zionists Ideologues, so colored by their HATE must come to realize that the undeniable
    Atrocities of Oct 7 -- In no way justifies or rationalizes the unmitigated horror being
    perpetrated upon the Palestinian people - Most of whom were mere Children

    Zionists like to rant & rail about false charges of Blood Libel that are leveled by Anti-Semites
    ............................................................. - Yet here the Blood is there on the table for all to see -
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    All this validates is that Hamas uses civilians as human shields. Hamas self admittedly places civilians in harms way and hopes to maximize civilian deaths. This is their dead baby policy. When civilians are killed Hamas is responsible. That is abundantly clear. But western progressives and the legacy media blame Israel for the civilian deaths. The cartoon upthread illustrates this perfectly. If the IDF shoots to protect Israeli civilians and the Gazan civilian which the cowardly Hamas terrorist is hiding behind is harmed Israel is blamed. That is absurd. But that is the dead baby strategy which Hamas employs so successfully. If the western progressives and legacy media really want to reduce the number of civilian casualties they must begin to condemn Hamas for using human shields Only then will Hamas stop using them - or not. The only way to eliminate Gazan and Israeli civilian casualties is for the IDF to completely eradicate Hamas in Gaza.
     
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    Were the 3 Israelis gunned down also human shields?
     
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    Killing human shields is a war crime as terrible as terrorism. In both, innocent civilians are killed. the reasons do not matter in the slightest. The policies that cause groups like Hamas to form make Israel just as guilty as Hamas in the death of both the Israelis and the Palestinians. It is better that not a single member of Hamas be killed as long as innocent civilians are left to live in peace. THAT will protect Israeli lives. By slaughtering every member of Hamas while simultaneously killing civilians, the IDF and Netanyahu are actually betraying the Israelis, condemning them to eternal terrorist attacks.

    The bloodthirst that some feel that is so extreme that they think civilians being used as human shields makes it ok to kill the civilians, are so blind and confused that they cannot see that they are just putting the Israeli civilians in even greater danger.
     
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    Using human shields is a war crime in which the side (Hamas) using the human shields in responsible.

    Hamas fires rockets from populated areas. Israel fires smart munitions back at the gps located Hamas launching sites in defense of Israeli citizens. Gazan civilians in close proximity to the Hamas launching sites who have not been evacuated by Hamas are injured. Hamas is responsible for Gazan civilian casualties. And absurdly the parliamentary democracy of Israel is blamed. The dead baby policy succeeds.
     
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    Israelis are finally waking up and challenging their corrupt govt:

     
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    Luckily, the vast majority of the world disagrees with you. There is hope for humanity yet.
     
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    The vast majority of the world agrees that Israel has a right and responsibility to defend its citizens. It is tragic that Gazan civilians suffer casualties but that is the result of Hamas locating launching sites in populated areas and therefore Gazan civilian casualties are the responsibility of Hamas.
     
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    Hamas came into being due to the oppression against Palestinians for decades, so, the responsibility falls on Israel. The vast majority of the world demand an end to Israel's ethnic cleansing and slaughter of civilians and civilian infrastructure. 153 voted in favor of cease fire, 10 against, and 23 abstained. So, sorry, you are wrong, on both counts. As usual.
     
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    who cares?
     
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    Why comment?
     
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    Leaked audio reveals Israeli army helicopter fired on Israeli hostages on Oct. 7
    'We were in tunnels, terrified that it would not be Hamas, but Israel, that would kill us, and then they would say Hamas killed you,' says Israeli hostage released by Hamas

    An Israeli army helicopter fired on the Israeli hostages captured by Hamas on Oct. 7 on their way to Gaza, according to a leaked video, which has revealed their horror of being killed in Israeli attacks rather than Hamas.

    The leaked audio, parts of which were published on the Israeli news site Ynet, captures the meeting on Tuesday between former Israeli hostages, relatives of those still held, and Israel's war-time Cabinet. - www.aa.com.tr (Turkish media website)
     
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    Turkish propaganda. They hate Israel.
     
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    Now let's address the topic please instead of throwing bigoted comments about entire ppl thanks.
     
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    It's what they DO -
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    Is it possible that Zionism has BECOME the very THING that
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    So after all this silly Blather you drop a 2000 lb bomb in a residential neighborhood
    ................... in an attempt to off ONE Hamas operative & think that YOU are Justified

    Zionists likes to rant & rail about false charges of Blood Libel that are leveled by Anti-Semites
    .......................................-----................... - Yet here the Blood is there on the table for all to see -......................................................................
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    If Hamas is eradicated civilian deaths will be zero.
     
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