Nobody is in heaven. That's the point. The bible says that after we die we have to wait for judgement day before it's decided whether we go to hell or heaven. Hence heaven and hell are still empty. God and Jesus supposed to be upstairs and Satan downstairs. And everybody else is in a waiting-room or waiting-state of some sort. At least that's the (ridiculous) premis in the bible. I bet a couple thousand Roman soldiers must be getting quite mad waiting for it. They promised judgement-day every couple of decades since 800 AD....
Just as a little anecdote: Holy people aren't in heaven or hell either. They are the people's assistance. According to the bible, these people listen to you complain and then run to God or Jesus with the complain in order for you to get help. So if you become a holy person, you don't get to go to heaven. You have to be the delivery-boy for a community...
"Everything changes" after people die. "God loves you"?....ends the moment your brain dies, unless you're "saved". If you're not, He don't give a rat's ass about you. "Love your friends and family"?....over the moment the lights go out. You have family and friends in Hell, you can't enjoy Heaven....so obviously you give up on them. "Work and a sense of purpose"?....finished the moment the blood stops flowing. Won't be any work in Heaven....and aside from standing around telling God how great he is, you'll have no purpose.
That isn't a condition of free will. Free will exists for other reasons, primarily our advanced brain development as a species. The existence of Heaven as a location now is in doubt, that's from Pope John Paul II, the RC Church regards it as a state of spiritual existence now, so the question of free will doesn't arise in that context as it refers to a physical being.
What are youeven talking about? Free Will is just one of the attributes of Consciousness. Free Will refers the evolved expansion of man's Response to Fear. That pause has gradually lengthened into whole days, while we were give an opportunity to decide whether to fight or flee. Consciousness itself is just this extended long period of time to think and decide. In itself, the pause we call Free Will Time has no inherent tendencyto harm others. It is merely the extension of time to think and discover the circumstances of the matters related to our survival, now long range reflexions. Proverbs 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord, and find the knowledge of God.
I'm not sure what these sentences have to do with my question. According to the people for which this thread is started, it is. So, if that's not you, move along. How is it related to a physical being? What are YOU even talking about? When theists are asked why god allows people to do bad things to others, they say it's because of free will - that people MUST be allowed to harm others in order to have it. So, again, if people are allowed to have free will in heaven, they must be able to hurt others in heaven. Since they cannot do that, then, there is no free will in heaven.
Don't confuse an option with the exercise of that option. Presumably in heaven there is no need or desire to harm others.
Why not? If we have free will, why wouldn't people desire to harm others in heaven? Why can't god make people lack that desire on earth?
