If evolution is true, then obviously "Jesus" is not real.

NB again, there is NO evidence anybody could ever offer you on evolution....

because you firmly believe what the OP's Subject Line says....that "if" evolution is true....your religion is false.

You can't say that directly....but it's clearly what you believe.

 

how is "the universe was created by a magic sky man dreamed up by middle eastern tribesmen during the bronze age" a better explanation?

further, if one superstition based explanation is 'better' than the science, then all are (given they're all equally preposterous). so you'll agree that the universe and all life were created by a turtle, as a gift for his beloved ... a lizard.

 

I've already explained several times that the nested hierarchy all life exhibits, both morphologically and genetically, can only be explained by common descent. Now where is your evidence for creation?

 

This is so completely dishonest. Countless links to evidence have been provided, the evidence has been explained to you. The true problem is that you have no idea what the definition of evolution even is. But, instead of learning, it seems like you'd rather make monstrous claims and then not provide evidence to support them. Still waiting for you to provide me with one scientist who used the word "kind" in a taxonomic classification system.

 

Isn't it amazing this still exists? I think they are behind the times.

 

Observed fact: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1997/09/970918045841.htm

Observed fact: http://fusedweb.pppl.gov/

Proven theory: http://tolweb.org/tree/

Religious meme proven false: http://www.livescience.com/43674-cancer-skin-color-evolution.html

 

He has dodged every single question/fact that he knows would disprove his BS. He is just flame baiting at this point. Complete denial.

 

Mmm, I'd just like to point out that they created electrons and positrons from photons, photons aren't really "nothing", they are indeed particles.

 

It is only your understanding that causes you to think that way. There were no amino acids until that chemical evolution occurred.

 

So in your view, light is nothing. Have I got that right?

 

You are avoid the question. Provide one piece of scientific evidence for evolution.

Do you believe everything came from nothing, nothing at all.

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False. Provide some evidence. I know none of you can, but you all insist evolution is "a fact" so there should be tons of evidence. I want ONE, just one.

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No evidence has been provided, only speculation, opinion, conjecture, fairy tales. One, just one piece of evidence.

 

Do you believe in the fallacy of all matter from nothing? P.S. Light is not ":nothing". The others are speculation. You would know that if you had read them instead of pasting them from a google search

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Do you want to try and find some evidence too?

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There was no chemicals until the scientists combined them

 

You've been given massive evidence of evolution.

You have refuted absolutely none of it.

 

Speculation based on observational evidence is what science is. Do you have a problem with that?

You know what NB, why don't you tell us what kind of evidence you're looking for. Specifically. I'm going to SPECULATE that you don't even know what evidence for evolution would look like.

 

No, we know which genes cause the traits I mentioned, and we can study dated skeletal remains of humans. So, we do known when these traits entered the human genome and approximately where on earth it happened, too.

No, what it "sounds like" is irrelevant. What it IS is what is relevant. And, again, we know what happened to human genes to allow for the three new features humans obtained through evolution that I mentioned.

And, it was I who stated that "higher" has no intrinsic meaning here. The next trait humans may acquire could come from anywhere. And, the benefits of the traits I mentioned are entirely limited to any advantage that comes from those traits alone.



Also, remember that I noted to you three cases of evolution in humans.

 

There were chemicals but no amino acids until that evolution occurred as a result of that experiment.

 

Please Sir... Everyone has given you evidence. You have chosen to ignore it all, and ask for more. Are you trying to frustrate people?

 

I have been shown nothing other than speculation and opinion.

 

no, but you do. theists are pretty much the only ones, as far as I can tell, who ASSERT that something can come from nothing.

edited to add a line from a previous post of mine: further, if one superstition based explanation is 'better' than the science, then all are (given they're all equally preposterous). so you'll agree that the universe and all life were created by a turtle, as a gift for his beloved ... a lizard. I would appreciate your thoughts on this explanation for the origins of life.

 

Speculation is speculation. Evidence is evidence.

Show me at least on transitional fossil per century showing the progression from a mouse-like creature to a bat. SHow me a fossil from the half mouse-like creature to bat. Show me evidence of how a poly-strata petrified tree was able to stand upright for a few 10's of millions of years while soil turned to rocks around it. Show me how the Earth was able to maintain a magnetic field strong enough that it only degraded to it's current measurements in 20 billion years. Show me how a comet is able to still survive the Big Bang after 20 billion years. Show me how the nano-machines within a living cell could have possibly have formeds by chance. Show me where the information came from to not only create those nano-machines but the information for those machines to be able to digest, create energy and reproduce.

All of this fits into the Creation model, none of it fits into the evolution model. And no one has been able, after a week or more been able to show even one scientific evidence of any of these examples.

Your turn!

 

Unless those "dated skeletal remains" had a tombstone over them neither you nor science has any idea what date the organism died.

By The Way, passing on genetic traits is not evolution. Not even close.

What you pointed out were three debunked examples of missing links. You are decades and centuries behind the current scientific evidences.

 

Great argument sir. I am sure it will be ignored.

 

There was no bread until I combined the ingredients, or steel until the ores and elements were combined, your point is absurd on it's face.

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No evidence has been provided. I am asking for it, but still you keep saying it was. You won't even cut and paste from earlier posts to prove you provided anything that isn't speculation or opinion.

 

Photons only act like particles, they can also act like waves. Physicists have known for a century that matter and energy are two sides of the same coin. They've been able to convert matter into energy for the last 50 years. Now they can convert energy into matter. While the energy in this experiment certainly isn't "nothing", when you consider that the total energy of the universe is likely zero, the universe could literally have come from "nothing".

If it is your opinion that all matter coming from nothing is a fallacy, then what did the matter God created come from?

The scientists didn't combine them, they only created the conditions where they could combine thru natural processes.

 

What exploded in the Big Bang?