If Jesus died for my sins

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    That really seems like a lie.

    Show the bible verses that say god can die.

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    DL
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Your unbiblical claims will be impossible to prove, I'll grant you that...
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    No, he didn't. Prove your first claim, that Jesus rejected organized religions and temples. What he was against was false religions, false teachers, and liars.
     
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    Isaiah 53
    1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

    2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

    3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

    4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

    5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

    8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

    9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

    10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

    11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

    12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
     
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    Yes he did, as quoted.

    If you are just going to deny without showing anything against what I put, go away.

    Jesus saw all organized religions and temples as unworthy of us. Jesus preached self knowledge and seeking god. Not finding one and idolizing it.

    Your own bible tells you that if you want to perfect your wisdom, you have to get out of Christin theology and seek it elsewhere.

    That advice is what Gnostic Christians do, while Christians, of course, ignore their bible.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Thanks for quoting a version of the many bibles.

    If your god died, good.

    Genocidal pricks who hate women and gays deserve nothing better.

    If the sacrifice did not stay dead, then to call it that is a lie. If your god can die, why call him god?

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    DL
     
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    You say so below....
    That is what religions are today.
     
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    This is ridiculous. If I can find you one Church that is not full of false teachers and liars that's enough to make you a liar, and I know there is more than one. There are way more liars on this website than there are in the Church.
     
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    You see what is and ignore what's behind it. You can't be that shallow. I think you are way more perceptive than what you pretend. Your Parents are co creators with God. They didn't actually make your body anymore than they made their own, or their Parents made them. Show me any Parent anywhere in history who actually made their own or their childrens bodies. You can't.
     
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    Follow any DNA line and get your god off our dicks and out of human vaginas.

    Can you not see what you accuse your prick of a god of doing?

    Look at these images and give that prick all the kudos he should get, in your twisted view. Come defend that if you are totally morally corrupted.



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    That good old immoral Christian double moral standard.

    I have to prove my case while you do not have to prove your god exists.

    Go find someone stupid to argue with. That is the only way you will win your supernatural based B S.

    Or tell us what kind of prick of a god would put those babies into those women.

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    DL
     
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    Some extremely gifted people.... who had something like a near death experience..... stated the the Psalms and Isaiah were two of the favourite books for Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to read while he was human................

    Your comment has extraordinary insight.... that is for sure......
    Here is a hint for you.....

    www.ThomasTwin.com/

    ... but another one is Levi Dowling........ both of these writers dealt with information that is far, far, far, far ,far above my own Security Clearance Level with MESSIAH Yeshua - Jesus!!!!
     
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    One argument is that if you are correct, then your entire life will have been a vain waste of time, as well as the words you now speak. If I am correct, then you will realize it in its fullness and continue with that knowledge as well as with all else pertaining thereunto.
     
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    No offense intended...but by your standards, that would leave 99% as false teachers/churches....
    wouldn't that make you an even bigger liar??
     
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    You need to work on your reading for comprehension skills. Now try again if you dare, and leave the shallow rhetoric out of it.
     
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    ^ This is the guy who once claimed that when he met God he was going to strangle him. I'd pay money to see that.
     
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    Of course the 557 game....attempt to discredit the opposition...ignore the argument...
    and when that doesn't work....you unanimously declare yourself victorious.
    Why waste my time...I hereby concede to your superior intellect.
     
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    That is wise. Might as well quit while you're behind.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like more of your "shallow rhetoric".
    So is there anything that you are not superior at in your eyes?
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol....Just as I predicted....you unanimously declare yourself victorious every time.
    So Mr. 557....how many different names are you registered by at this forum?
    ....it doesn't matter really. Your extreme narcissism gives you away ever time..
     
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    Get a grip and think about what you said instead of trying to out maneuver me by accusing me of being a sock. Not narcissim, I got you dead to rights and you don't even know it.
     
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    One of the common characteristics of narcissists....is laziness....
    you simply claim you are right about something...and make no attempt what-so-ever to verify your conclusion.
    In your delusional way of thinking...if someone doesn't agree with you...
    there is something wrong with them...not their argument.
    Perhaps you can get off your lazy butt and explain how you think you have me "dead to rights".
     
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    If I am correct in using logic, morals and reason, I am well covered.

    If you continue to adore a genocidal prick of a god and his homophobic and misogynous religions, you are well covered by Satan.

    You might try living by the Golden Rule.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    That is not true. I say I have a bullet with his vile name on it.

    I see you cannot answer the moral aspects. Not surprising.

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    DL
     
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    No - in my logical way of thinking when you say something as ridiculous as you have been saying, you're WRONG. You have not said one thing that is factual in three days and since you don't have enough self awareness to know how ridiculous you sound my explanation isn't going to help you.
     

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