If Julia dumps the carbon tax would you vote for labor?

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If labor dropped the carbon tax would you vote labor at the next election?

Poll closed Oct 9, 2011.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Maybe

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  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    If labor dropped the carbon tax would it get your vote?
     
  2. bugalugs

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    No

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  3. Uncle Meat

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    Yes.

    Even if she doesn't dump it the ALP still gets my vote.

    I'm not prepared to let the Libs destroy IR legislation.
     
  4. bugalugs

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    Why don't you ask the same question about the Liberals' Carbon Tax?

    If the Libs dropped their proposal to use tax money to pay big polluters to achieve exactly the same emission reductions as Labor - would it get your vote?

    And how would you prefer to achieve emission reductions? By taxing the emitters (the Labor proposal) ? Or taxing everybody and paying the emitters (the Liberal proposal)?
     
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    You have to give Abbott that one though - he is not a "Work Choices" Lib.

    Of course - he stands for nothing (except for Tony) - but he will not bring back Workchoices. Then again - he is very unlikely to be leader at next election.
     
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    He won't bring back Workchoices, however, he will tamper with the regulations in the Fair Work Act 2009.

    I don't want to see that happen.
     
  7. bugalugs

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    Tony will tamper with what helps Tony.

    That is why his Party of "free marketers" are suddenly all for Big Government when it comes to emissions reduction and industry protectionism.

    Sadly though - there are a lot of morons in this country that listen to Bolt and Jones and accept Tony's contradictions without question
     
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    That fact actually worries me.
     
  9. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    God no.... A vote for labor is a vote to further the debt prob..


    Cant wait for her to get the boot.. And despite the bleatings the greens will go too. Yes up to the current gov they have polled well BUT given that they have their hands in with the stuff ups of late you would have to expect em to loose a bit of ground at the next election...
     
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    So, would you prefer to achieve emission reductions by taxing everybody and paying the emitters (the Liberal proposal) rather than taxing the emitters (the Labor proposal) to achieve exactly the same reductions.

    Why?

    Why are you in favour of Big Government intervention like this? It is a very anti-Liberal policy.
     
  11. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    No bugs i am in favour of doing NOTHING to reduce co2 levels..but leave that for the co2 threads as we all know how you like to bag the libs about it all and i have no need to get into that at all.

    The labor party has shown it is hopeless at implementing GOOD policy.. that is a plain FACT
     
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    So who will you vote for then?

    You are in favour of doing NOTHING to reduce co2 levels - so you certainly could not vote for the Liberals, who have as their policy the same emission reduction targets as Labor, but will use a more expensive Big Government Tax to do it.

    Who are you going to vote for?!?!? Are there any right wing extremist parties that suit you? Do you just crayon in "I Want Pauline" on your ballot paper and hand it in?
     
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    I will never vote Labor again. The Gillard governments treatment of asylum seekers is appalling and I will never support that party again.

    Greens all the way.
     
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    Yes- Greens all the way.

    They are the only party that actually has policies.

    Unlike the Liberal "free marketers" who want to impose tax-payer funded government regulation to reduce carbon emissions, or the Labor "socialists" who want to treat asylum seekers like criminals.

    What a bunch of of gutless hypocrites the both of them are.
     
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    Policies? Daydreams & decor aren`t policies.
     
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    So will you vote for the Liberal's Great Big Tax where YOUR tax money will be paid to polluters to achieve the same goals as Labor?

    How is this better than charging the polluters for polluting?
     
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    This may come as a shock bugs so you better sit down..... Most people will think about MORE than the stupid co2 tax while voting.... and no matter what you bleat about the libs are a way better option than labor.
     
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    The greens live OFF the environment, NOT for it.
     
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    I'm currently a minor party voter.
     
  20. bugalugs

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    Why?

    Can you explain?

    They have an emissions reduction target EXACTLY the same as Labor - but they propose a more expensive way of achieving it.

    They want off-shore processing of asylum seekers - EXACTLY the same as Labor - but they want to do it more expensively and less effectively in Nauru.

    And - They want to oppose a National Broadband Network.

    And apart from that - ...they have no policies at all

    Why would you vote for the Liberal Party?

    Could you give any reason at all?
     
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    Fiscal responsibility....
    Gillard and the labor party are LIARS
    nuff said
     
  22. bugalugs

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    This may come as a shock efay so you better sit down.....this thread is about the Carbon Tax.

    So will you vote for the Liberal's Great Big Tax where YOUR tax money will be paid to polluters to achieve the same goals as Labor?

    How is this better than charging the polluters for polluting?

    Can you answer this - or will you continue to avoid the obvious? That the alternative is far worse than the status quo.
     
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    What happened to the proceeds of the mining boom of the last decade?

    Oh... thats right - it was spent on middle class welfare, baby bonuses and tax cuts to win elections! Oh - and illegal wars!

    Where is our infrastructure? Where is our NBN?


    Pots and kettles


    "The Australian Government knows that Iraq still has chemical and biological weapons and that Iraq wants to develop nuclear weapons." "Iraq continues to work on developing nuclear weapons-uranium has been sought from Africa that has no civil nuclear application in Iraq"
    4 February 2003

    "The Government's position remains that we were advised by Defence that children were thrown overboard, we made those allegations on the basis of that advice, and until I get Defence advice to the contrary I will maintain that position". 9 November 2001

    "Nothing can alter the fact that I have in my possession an ONA report that states baldly . . . that children were thrown in the water."
    8 November 2001

    "No, there's no way that a GSTwill ever be part of our policy." 2 May, 1995
     
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    aussiefree2ride New Member

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    One would need to turn a blind eye to logic, and take a giant leap of blind faith to vote for the ego queen & her band of union thugs.
     
  25. Oxyboy

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    None of 'em.

    I wouldn't like to say i helped, Gillard, Abbott or Brown.
     

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