If Romney can't win without the help of the Ron Paul supporters...

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  1. GoSlash27

    GoSlash27 New Member

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    ... then why does everybody keep calling him "electable"?

    He doesn't stand a chance of winning without the help of people who don't like him, don't want him, and have indicated repeatedly that they won't vote for him.
    So what's the reasoning behind all this "electable" nonsense?
    / food for thought
     
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  2. marbro

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    im not sold he could win even with RP support. Folks think he is getting hit hard right now, this is nothing compared to whats going to happen come general election and the left wing media starts its propagnada machine.
     
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    I don't know that he needs Ron Paul's help. I mean, just look at this crowd yesterday. It's standing room only!!!

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  4. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    What are you talking about? Romney leads the polls in S. Carolina and he's the odds on favorite to win in Florida. This is shaping up to be a cake walk for Romney where he'll most likely win every primary state. What do the ron paul fringe voters have to do with Romney becoming our next president? Do yourself a favor by dropping any and all thoughts of ron paul being a factor in this race. :ignore:
     
  5. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Sure, what does the 20% that is GOP and have woken up to who is a RINO have to do with being able to elect Romney? I mean, Romney is getting so much help from the youth vote, TEA party vote, independents, and disenfranchised Democrats...Oh wait, NO, he is NOT. These are the people that helped Obama win, and they are NOT going to vote for Obama lite.

    Seriously, what is different between Romney and Obama? Private sector business experience? Big whoop if he has the SAME political stances as the current FAILURE in chief.
     
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  6. GoSlash27

    GoSlash27 New Member

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    If you can't figure that out now, you'll find out in November. :mrgreen:
     
  7. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I would in turn ask you what are the similarities between the two..if any?
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    What are you saying here if anything...that paul is going to be the Republican nominee? Stop playing games...tell us what you really think.
     
  9. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Really? Everything we hate about Obama, Romney has a history of supporting or supports NOW. Individual mandate, gun control, government funded abortions, NDAA indefinate detention of American civilians, MORE WARS, POTUS above the constitution, DREAM act, should I continue? Not to mention crony capitalism.
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    I don't see where Romney supports any of those items you mentioned, or if he had in the past it was of a milder postion that you believe to be the case, and he certainly doesn't support any of them today as he's told us of his views.
     
  11. Craigers

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    Don't forget the FED and deficit spending :mrgreen:

    But seriously, anyone who can't see that Obama and Mitt are the same big government statists needs to have their eyes checked.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    His history is all that matters. He has supported these and quite frankly, actions speak louder than words.

    Individual mandate - Part of Romneycare

    Gun control - Throwing his support behind several gun control laws at the early stage of his political career, most notably, the Brady Act.

    government funded abortions - Again, part of Romneycare

    NDAA indefinate detention of American civilians - Just said he would have signed the bill like Obama did on monday.

    MORE WARS, -
    These type of actions lead to MORE wars.

    POTUS above the constitution - Again goes to NDAA
     
  13. Craigers

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    Romney is anti-gun:

    Read his word's carefully. That is not coming from a man defending gun owners by allowing hunters to carry guns across the street as he said in the last debate. That is coming from a man fundamentally against the 2nd.

    Also:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kk1bJOpYUqE[/ame]


    This video will take care of his positions on abortion, the FED, obamacare and others.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c[/ame]

    Here is Romney's stance on the NDAA - He even defends Obama!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUZoPnYjx0g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUZoPnYjx0g[/ame]


    Now consider that he has the same foreign policy as Obama (and everyone but Paul), and that he has purposed no real cuts to government spending, what do you get? Obamalite. That is Romney.
     
  14. GoSlash27

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    I've said repeatedly what I really think. Romney will almost certainly end up the Republican nominee and will almost certainly get destroyed in the general election because the Paul supporters will either:
    a) split the vote on a third party candidate
    b) actively pull the lever for Obama, insuring that the Dems get the blame for the next 4 years
    or
    c) stay home.

    Romney can't actually win a general election, so it's funny listening to people talking about his "electability".

    Paul, OTOH, actually *can* win the general election, but I don't see him getting the nomination.
     
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    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have never had anyone tell me why they love Mitt Romney. Perceived electability is pretty much the only reason I am ever given for someone supporting him. The only person who really thinks Romney is the best choice is that pompous ass in NJ and Romney probably bought his endorsement with a VP promise. I don't want another out-of-touch elitist either. I want a guy who rides his bike with no hands and doesn't look like a girl doing it.
     
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    If you don't like Romney, vote for Newt. If you can't vote for either Newt or Mitt because you wanted Ron Paul, but he failed to win the nomination, then you are a nutbag conspiracy kook who deserves another 4 years of Obama.

    P.S. There is no such thing as bigfoot, and there was no government conspiracy on 9/11 you dipsquat.
     
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    Yeah you never hear why people like Romney only why they hate others. Usually these same folks have nothing nice to say period. Says a lot about the persons character
     
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    If Romney were "electable"... then why didn't he get elected in 2008?

    Romney is a stooge, he will get the GOP nomination and then lose to PrezBO.

    Don't bother voting... it's already been decided.
     
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    I love your dismissal of Ron Paul... goes to show how pathetic your attempts are against him when you have to go to the most Outlandish statements possible to avoid a debate.
     
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    AshenLady New Member Past Donor

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    Romney isn't going to win, even if he has the entire Republican party cheering him on, of which he doesn't have.
     
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    Why do people like this even bother keeping up with the candidates? They are going to vote whoever has a (R) or (D) next to there name in the long run, they don't care about any issues; it's like a football game to them.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Republicans, independents, and libertarians are only going to cut off their noses to spite their faces if they choose to stay home and don't go vote for the Republican nominee. I don't want to hear any of them complaining over what happens over the next 4 years if that's the case. We'll have a choice and that choice will be Barack Obama for 4 more years or the Republican nominee; all of whom have stated they would work to get Obamacare repealed and stop the move towards socialism. With Obama, we won't even get that chance.
     
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    He promises to work to repeal Obamacare. That alone will get my vote.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    I think you underestimate how much people don't like Obama and what's he done to our country. If he gets 4 more years it will be even worse....as he won't have to worry about getting re-elected....so he will just go full speed ahead towards socialism.
     
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    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The republican party establishment should listen to us now. They have set up the primary system as if they were purposely trying to disenfranchise at least half the republicans in the country. Democrats in some states have a bigger influence on the election than republicans in Texas and many other states. Being told now that we have to suck it up and vote for whoever the republicans nominate is pretty maddening.
     

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