If Trump burned everybody alive who didn't vote for him, would you then condemn him?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    As creator, God has every right to expect people to make a choice. To compare it to the Mafia who get people to make that choice for their own financial gain is just anti-intellectual. The Mafia offer a choice between physical life and death. Jesus offers a choice between SPIRITUAL life and death.
     
  2. FreedomSeeker

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    I can't imagine a person not being concerned about people who give their children a book that says to kill gays and that gays are (apparently) such scum that gays can't get into "heaven" and DESERVE "hell". I really can't.
     
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    are you offended that many of simply rise above your silly & childish games?
     
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    THEN ASK HIM TO GIVE US A COURT-ROOM LEVEL OF EVIDENCE FOR WHICH GOD TO BELIEVE IN, there are thousands and thousands to pick from - apparently you've never seen a list of them.
     
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    You just ADMITTED that Jesus is basically just like the Mafia!! You know it's true, (about Jesus) and I know it's true.
     
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    In other words they don't care about their fellow human being? Yes, I am.
     
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    We are at WAR with faith (Islam), and you don't seem to be too concerned.
     
  8. chris155au

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    Uh yeah, which is exactly why I'm having to take the bait by replying to you. How is replying to you demonstrating that I have not been better prepared to do religious battle with you? Wouldn't this be the case if I WASN'T replying?
     
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    If they really had an all-knowing entity on their side, who not only guides them their whole life, but who also answers their prayers, then they would easily vanquish me, and unassisted atheist scum with no divine entity on his/her side. But that's not the case.
     
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    Even though I made a CLEAR distinction? How did I say that Jesus is like the Mafia?
     
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    You'd be a more ethical person, a better human being, if you'd condemn Jesus for teaching that your family will all burn in "hell" if they become, say, Buddhists - at least we can agree on that. I assume that you love your family.
     
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    One is "physical" life/death, the other is "spiritual" life/death you said, but IT'S STILL THE SAME - it's IMMORAL AND BULLYING! Different yes, the same YES! Jesus is a like the SPIRITUAL MAFIA. He has to resort to threats and fear - because he's not actually real, just a legend, a legend for people who are afraid of their eventual natural death ("thanatophobia".)
     
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    Why is it Jesus' fault if someone chooses one of the false God's? By the way, its not as if each of those thousands of God's have followers all throughout the world. When people reject the Christian God, its not because they have sat down and compared him to the thousands of others God's and found him to have less evidence than all of the others. This is clearly what you're suggesting and its REALLY stupid!
     
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    If you were in Jesus' shoes, would YOU provide the world with a court-room level (not a Biblical hearsay level) of evidence for his (your) divinity, so that way fewer people would end up in "heaven" and avoid "hell"? I would, because I am more loving than Jesus is. Are you more loving than Jesus is?
     
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    Because he purposefully keeps evidence for his divinity from the world - all he'd have to do would be to show up, say, at the Superbowl at half-time (or whatever - hey, he's all-powerful, right?) each year and way fewer people would end up in "hell". But he doesn't do that because he's a POS (yes, piece of poo). I'd do that, myself, if I was him, and I bet you love humanity enough to do that as well.
     
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    Here's a shirt followers of the Bible would find attractive:

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    Or Christians can just teach differently and ignore that section. But you won't hold Christians to the same standard you demand you be held to like say for instance with science.
     
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    "Arresting" Satan would violate free will.
     
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    No, it just makes you look like an ******* and turns any Christians you might convince away.
     
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    Extremely loving and caring people don't advocate putting Muslims in camps for thoughtcrimes.
     
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    FGM is a tribal belief, not a religious one.
     
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    Only if the situation gets real real real bad.
     
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    Mohammad APPROVED of FGM! Can you love women enough to condemn Mohammad for that?
     
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    So what you are saying is that if you are scared enough, you will be cool with taking away the freedoms of innocent people who have committed no crime.
     
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    It would be what's best for humanity, of course. Doing what's best for humanity is a higher priority than violating some ridiculous religious tenet regarding "free will", for sure. I care for humanity more than their barbaric god does, obviously.
     

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