If You Really Believe Diversity Is A Strength...

I grew up in majority black neighborhoods here in England and in the states. All there was to hang out with were blacks. It's not my fault if they were all losers. Most blacks tend to be losers. That's not my fault.

If a parking attendant keeps giving you tickets for no reason and you have to keep paying huge fines to get your nice car back, you're not going to like that parking attendant, are you?

And you have a nerve talking about wimpy emotions. I have the strength of mind not to bahhhh along with the rest of the ******* sheep who are brainwashed into thinking blacks are our equals despite them literally destroying the civilized society that we humans built and violently robbing any person weaker than them IE: children and the elderly. You on the other hand bow down to PC pressure and are too scared to ask questions when you see a certain group of society reeking havoc and laughing as they take all your tax money to produce more illegitimate children. Or don't you work? Now that is a wimpy mentality. Discover some pride and a backbone and challenge the cancer that's killing your society. You don't have to tolerate vile, murderous behavior just because the mainstream media tells you to.

But wait... you're the guy that thinks targeting children for sex crimes isn't a big deal, aren't you? If YOU say I have wimpy emotions and zero logic, it's absolutely meaningless. If members of this forum could be banned for making stupid, wimpy and illogical posts you'd no longer be a member around here.

 

Loving your avatar.

Don't listen to the sheep who bahhh at you to take it down because it might offend some black-supremacists feelings. They're brainwashed into bending over and offering themselves to non-Whites.

 

Had a laugh with the avatar.

 

Not me bud, i and those i chose to be around are racially aware. My children are already aware at 5 and 4 years old. We as a race should NEVER bend to no whites...NEVER.

 

Really..I wonder if you realize what a laugh we have at YOUR expense....

 

The Father of the White Pride Movement is Barack Obama. The movement only came into its own when Obama became President.

 

I am a biochemist, I studied at the University of NSW. I majored in molecular biology, the study of DNA etc.

Now one thing I learnt there, was about species, a member of one species cannot produce offspring of another. Now this is a fairly tested theory, in laboratories some of our most brilliant scientists have tried even on bacteria and yeasts.

Molecular biology itself is a very sound science, proving itself time and time again in creating new cures, and understanding disease mechanisms. The branch of molecular biology that studies mitochondrial DNA as a part of evolution and tracing the origin of the human species, also has sound roots.

Paternal identification, DNA matching in criminology all use the same methods and are sound enough to convict in most legal systems. If we look at the method of determining paternity by comparing genes, this is the fine tuned method we use to build a family tree of the human species.

The genes are there to show who you dad was, and the genes of your hair colour, how easy you tan, or what colour your skin. Scientists however are not able to determine race, the following quote explains.

“DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity. People who have lived in the same geographic region for many generations may have some alleles in common, but no allele will be found in all members of one population and in no members of any other. Indeed, it has been proven that there is more genetic variation within races than exists between them.
The U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Human Genome Project (HGP) devoted 3% of its annual budget toward studying the ethical, legal, and social issues (ELSI) surrounding the availability of genetic information. In 2004, DOE sponsored a Nature Genetics supplement called Genetics for the Human Race. ”

Genetic Anthropology, Ancestry, and Ancient Human Migration - The Human Genome Project

These are interesting reading: -
RACE - The Power of an Illusion

The Challenges and Impact of Human Genome Research for Minority Communities

To believe in one is to believe in them all as they all have the same basic science. I do not ask you to believe me, check it out. If you still don't believe then that's fine.

But don't cheat and use some of the science, while treating the other with contempt.

 

DominorVobis. Research Derek Todd Lee "Baton Rouge Serial Killer".

 

But a persons race can be determined by a genetic analysis. As for "genetic variation", it depends on what type of variation. Some genes are more important than others, indeed most of it is useless "junk" DNA. Comparing whole races is problematic from the start. Any race, includes a whole group of many ethnicities. If you compare two men both of germanic ethnicity to eachother, the variation will be much smaller than comparing a german to a black person. But trying to say put someone of german ethnicity together in the same boat with a greek person, and then using this to "prove" genetic diversity within a "race" just does not make any sense. I hope that study did not include male-female genetic differences as part of that supposes "diversity". Yes, both white and black men both have a penis, whereas white women do not. Are you really trying to use this as supporting evidence that there is more diversity within the white race than between races? No, I think that genetic study you refer to deserves closer scrutiny, especially since so many of those now in academia are so mutliculturally biased.

 

I am not sure where you think I am misinformed but would be very grateful for you to show me as I am ALWAYS willing to go to a new theory if enough evidence is given to me to change my views after I have analised it to my satisfaction.

I did the research although I will admit it is a complex and particularly nasty case.

I dis find this quote in my research

"The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) states fingerprinting, hair fibers analysis and marks made by weapons, evidence commonly used in the courtroom. have never been scientifically validated. Only DNA analysis has been proven to match a suspect to a crime."

DNA & Forensic Science Criminal Investigations

I am not that ill-informed to know that every one's DNA is not unique, it is mathematically impossible that we all have distinct DNA as far as forensic medicine.

The mathematical odds also say that the chance of these two being in the same location at the same time are extremely high, but again not impossible.

Also other considerations need to be looked into, degradation of samples, victims having previous encounters of non-criminal and consensually.

No science is exact particularly down to such fine tuned identification, however in 99.99% it is reasonable accurate, combine it with profiling, means, etc it is a strong evidence.

I noticed references to the miss-use, over use etc of DNA in criminal cases and underfunding which are creating many more problems then what errors do. With all it's problems it is still THE BEST TOOL available.

Science may not be exactly right, but it is good enough for you and me to put our lives in it's hand every day. The police and courts are not always right, but without them we would have chaos and anarchy

 

I'm glad you agree with me, I said that there were genetic differences amongst races. Genes for skin colour, eye colour, eye shape, nose shape, hair curliness and on and on and on. These collectively will identify one race from another what the research shows is that there is not a gene that in itself is there to determine that race.

Of course you would be able to give an unbiased answer and as you have stated, this research needs closer scrutiny, actually all research needs closer scrutiny. That's what science is about, researching and scrutinising and re-discovering.

Thank you for your offer to do the research and to scrutinise that previously done in a non-biased, non-multicultural based methodology.

I eagerly await it......... but I won't hold my breath

 

complex and nasty because most of the information has been sequestered to prevent the public from the glaring and obvious fact that race can be determined by DNA. I knew several people who "volunteered" undergo Gestapo tactics to supply DNA samples when it was stated that a white man in a white pickup truck was seen near one of the victims. Read the scientific literature (i.e. SciFinder) and not Google (i.e. as waste of time as the searches are profit driven and politically driven and not information driven).

 

My understanding of population genetics is that using science to determine "race" is a flawed concept because you cannot used scientific methods to validate social groups.

The difference in genes between population is a matter of frequency. There is no single gene that if dound 100% in a population and 0% in another. And the overwhelming in group variation compared to between group variation pretty much tells us that the old idea of discrete and divisible races of human fails statistically.

The opposing argument oftens sides reports that science can discover "races". It is really a matter of reinventing races from a methodological perspectively. If we could detect human races by naked eyes, there is no idea why science cannot replicate the process of recognition, but this process itself does not prove race to be anything real. One such example is ancestry testing. This would easily trace my ancestry to Southern Europe as my parents migrated from Italy. What the private company did was to collect sample dna from Southern Europe and pick out those geographical markers, that are genetic markers that occur high frequently in people in this area but very less so in other areas of the world. Having a few these could nail my ancestry with 90% accuracy. And it would be no surprise if they nail it with an accuracy of 99.9% when they are looking at 300 geographical markers in my DNA. But this is a tiny fragment of my DNA (mostly part of the Junk DNA that code for nothing I guess) and tells me literally nothing about me, as I could be overall closer to a South Korean or Native American than another Italian.

 

The crux of issue is that statistically race as a idea fails if we talk about discrete divisible humanity in terms of genetic variation. We can look at the genes of the person and says this is 99% likely to be a "black guy" is not surprising, considering that fact that I can do that by my naked eye. Genes can tell us that who the lactose tolerant people are. But it makes little sense to say therefore those are tolerant belong to one race, and those who are not belong to another.

 

Should it not be obvious that different races are as different on the inside as they look on the outside? The statistical genetic variations between different races determine much more than mere external physical traits!

The real test would be to have a blind man get to know someone from outside his race. Would the blindman be able to determine that this other person came from a different race merely by having conversations and getting to know the other person? The person of another race would ideally have been adopted into the same race/culture of the blind man, to avoid the influence of any cultural influences.

But in any case, cultural differences should not be underestimated. It may be reason enough in itself to make immigration of a foreign cultural group undesirable, as can clearly be seen in the case of third world muslims in Europe. And even in the absence of cultural differences, the psychlogical interplay between physical appearance and society should be considered. People subconciously care more about the rest of their society when everyone looks ethnically similar to eachother. Having more ethnic facial variations might subtly affect the course of public opinion and government in profound ways. See:
http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...hanging-attitudes-towards-helping-others.html

Consider that even after 60 years (and arguably a hundred years before that), blacks have still not fully "culturally integrated" into the USA, and their rates of crime are several times higher. So culture is not going to easily go away. (perhaps it is a genetic issue rather than cultural!)

 

Your argument would hold more weight if we could actually distinguish races from each other. However, due to the high rate of intermixing between groups, its impossible to tell where one group ends and another begins.

 

Our society and government should be actively discouraging racial mixing, or trying to reduce the frequency of situations where members of different races of the opposite sex have contact with eachother.

 

May I ask why this should be so?

 

It is important if one values the continuity of their race in the present form. For example, more racial mixing will mean fewer beautiful white girls in the future. "Attractiveness" might be somewhat subjective, but I still think future descendants of the white people would then be missing out on the more racially pure attractiveness today.

In addition, I believe there may be potentially several racial differences (involving brain and genetics) that have developed over the course of human evolution which would be disadvantageous if they were suddenly mixed. Racial mixing will carry with it several unintended consequences, which cannot be foreseen today.

 

Diversity IS a strength. Multiculturalism however KILLS diversity. With multiculturalism everyone "melts" into one mixed race. But with true diversity every group of people has their own separate country.

 

What a load of twaddle

 

In the human history, gene flow due to movement of people for resources and invasion is the norm. Everyone is pretty "mixed". Statistical models suggests anyone living before AD500 that has descendents today, are ancester of all human being alive today. The skin colour and hair texture difference between people are understood as "sexual fetish" (sexual selection), that have no survival values.

 

The only way a government could do that would be to take one group of people and force them into reservations or camps away from the preferred group of people. Such an action would be morally repugnant, and run counter to the ideals of a free and civilized society.

 

If that means no more neo colonialism and exploitation of India and Africa I'm all for it but I'm guessing you mean no more mixing in europe and tally-ho for interaction in someone else's yard, you appear to have been brainwashed by talmudist white nationalism, pull your skirt down, there is a terrible aroma here.

 

I'm not sure about what you're asking here. Certainly a society that doesn't agree on the very basics of that society are pretty well doomed to anarchy as differing ethnic groups fight over how to make their culture dominate. And in multicultural states, if there is no overarching culture, it tends to fall apart as grievences between groups become more important than the survival of that state. OTOH it's not a situation that develops because of ethnic diversity per se, but because the different ethnic groups never formed their own singular identity.

The US is a multi-ethnic state. We have people coming to our country from all over the place. But for the most part, everyone becomes American in a generation or two. They leave their ghettos and enter the mainstream of society, they see themselves as Americans from different backgounds, and generally side with America in international affairs. OTOH Yugoslavia was a multicultural state in which people saw themselves first as being a part of an ethnic group and only secondarily as Yugoslavians. In fact, I don't think very many of them saw themselves as Yugoslavians.

If your beef is with multiethnic states, than explain why a uniformly slavic state with competing slavs fell apart and America is still a single nation.