If You Really Believe Diversity Is A Strength...

America is not a single nation. It is a polity based on a dead idea. America is simply a geographical expression inhabited by competing tribes. Nothing more in this era.

 

I agree, so all you Anglo-Saxon Americans should get the whatever out of that country you invaded just as we should in Australia.

No grow a brain instead, the world is changing and moving forward, to all you who do not want change, well stiff biscuits it is changing and we are changing it. Change or be changed. Right wing Capitalism wants all these things, well you want the money, so with the money comes RESPONSIBILITY. If you want to milk the world for every cent then you must be willing to pay the cost.

 

Do you guys think the Far Left are trying to Disarm America so they can make a move ?

 

I personally see no reason why Americans should not be disarmed, actually after reading some of these pages and other (no name mentioned) forums I feel that Americans should be disarmed before you do some major damage (if you haven't already).

From what I have seen and read, there are too many guns and not enough brains there already. IMO

 

LOL you think we are Namibia or Chad or Liberia for some reason , but Yamamoto(Or whichever oriental Admaral said it) had it right ,"If you Invade America ,behind every blade of grass will be a Man with a rifle," and he meant it . We have gotten along pretty well with Our 2nd Amendment rights for over 200 years ,why stop now .

 

here is why I believe you need gun control

# n 1999, 3,385 children and youth ages 0-19 years were killed with a gun. This includes homicides, suicides, and unintentional injuries.
# This is equivalent to about 9 deaths per day, a figure commonly used by journalists.
# The 3,385 firearms-related deaths for age group 0-19 years breaks down to:Four teen boys

* 214 unintentional
* 1,078 suicides
* 1,990 homicides
* 83 for which the intent could not be determined
* 20 due to legal intervention

# Of the total firearms-related deaths:

* 73 were of children under five years old
* 416 were children 5-14 years old
* 2,896 were 15-19 years old

In addition to firearm deaths, we need to look at how many children and young people are hurt by guns. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that in 1997, 2,514 children aged 0-14 were non-fatally injured by guns. In the same year, 30,225 young people aged 15-24 sustained nonfatal firearm injuries. These statistics include suicide attempts and both intentional and accidental shootings
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4845a1.htm.

According to the CDC, the rate of firearm deaths among children under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. American children are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die in a firearm accident than children in these other countries

MMWR Morb Mortal Wkly Rep. 1997; 46 101 –105

PORTLAND, Ore. - The 2-year-old child who police said was accidentally shot in the stomach in Dallas, Ore. Friday night has been released from OHSU.

Initially, investigators said the 3-year-old accidentally shot his younger brother. But now investigators say they have not been able to determine exactly which boy fired the gun.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/130484123.html

UNION COUNTY, N.C. -- A man fatally shot his 3-year-old son while showing his other son how a rifle works, Union County deputies said.

Derek Simpson was showing his 4-year-old son a black powder rifle on Sunday and did not realize it was loaded when he pulled the trigger, according to deputies. He accidentally shot his 3-year-old son, Jesse David Simpson.

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/25870930/detail.html

A 4-year-old southwest Charlotte girl died Saturday after she was accidentally shot, possibly by a cousin as young as 3, relatives said.

Family members of the victim say a young cousin apparently pulled the trigger. The cousin's age is undetermined, but Observer news partner WCNC-TV is reporting the age as between 3 and 5.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/09/24/2636210/4-year-old-killed-in-accidental.html


So as to not Get It Wrong ... this page

http://www.tincher.to/deaths.htm

Says that only 1520 children were shot in 2007, not 3067 as the anti-gun lobby claim as the other 1547 were 17 to 19 and not children. Well that's cool then, only around 4 kids die a day, what a relief. And that's out of over 34 million kids so that page says so I suppose they mean that you still have a lot left. Good one.

 

Guns don't kill people. Black "people" do. I wonder how many of those 3,385 "children" were really 17 or 18 year old's named Demarcus or Demetrious.

You quote three outstanding stories (one of which happened in 2010) when I could post literally thousands of stories of black teens "capping dey homies" in a drive-by or something.

That number would be no where near 3,385 if black "people" were banished from America. You know it, I know it, every sane person who's spent a significant period of time in a black majority city or neighborhood knows it.

Don't blame guns when it's really black "people" that's the problem.

 

Is your bloodline PURE, Zook?

 

No, but I don't have any black blood in me. Thank God!

 

Hitler was white, leopold too, so are Bush and Blair. How many million victims do they have. Face it, you lose this argument every time. Do we punish the user or the dealer. Well since the dealers are white we cannot punish them can we?

 

Idi Amin was black, as is Mugabe and Charles Taylor and Obama. So was Coral Eugene Watts and John Allan Muhammad. What's your point?

At grass roots level, black crime is a freaking epidemic in every place where there are black "people." Face it, you lose the argument everytime.

 

My point is that the biggest and most prolific killers are europeans, ever since they existed. The biggest epidemic in America right now is european gangs, it seems every other month there are massacres with hundreds of people found dead murdered by European gangsters. This is perpetuated by the American military whose weapons filter down onto the streets through the black market. You are assuming this black market is a literal meaning, it is not. It means underhand illegal trade at is not reference to the ethnicity "black".

 

I am not suggesting anything extreme. Just change the immigration laws and make racial quotas (like America formerly had) so as not to upset the racial balance. Enforce the immigration laws that America does have.

And stop implementing deliberate policies that are designed to encourage racial integration. The USA federal government has been pushing several of these policies, in the schools and funding for public housing.

Perhaps some of the states could even adopt voluntary segregated prisons, for prisoners that prefer to be around their same race. Indeed, some prisons in the USA have already done this to keep the black and hispanic gangs from killing eachother.

"Given the admittedly high racial tensions and violence already existing with the California Department of Corrections, there is clearly a common-sense connection between the use of race as the predominant factor in assigning cell mates for 60 days until it is clear how the inmate will adjust to his new environment," the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals court wrote. "The violence crops up along racial lines, so if you are going to fight with people, you are going to fight with people of a different race," said Terry Kupers, an Oakland psychiatrist and author of "Prison Madness: the Mental Health Crisis Behind Bars".

I found this online:

 

There we go. I fixed your post. Now it's accurate and makes sense.

 

If one is a victim of a crime committed by a person of another race the natural inclination is to have a visceral dislike for all people of that other race. I think people are hard wired by nature to be that way about the Other.

 

It's more than just "a" crime though, isn't it? I doubt anyone would be so easily swayed by just one incident. Non-black people are constantly a target for violent crime in majority black neighborhoods. Especially the weak such as elderly, women, disabled or children.

And who could blame an individual for disliking a group when the majority of that group are constantly attacking them both verbally and physically? You wouldn't like a parking attendants if the majority keep giving you tickets for no reason. No one likes parking attendants anyway.

Racism is totally natural.

 

Ok mr originality. Now we have you in a corner please do elaborate on the last massacre by "black" gangs that happened in america? By massacre I mean dozens of dead bodies in one play. Then I will show you the latest massacre by european gangs, they execute on average 10,000 people a year in central america alone! This is not fiction.

 

This is extremely shallow insight. One, one. We are not talking individuals, selfish thoughts, we are talking universal truths. People are ultimately judged by their character full stop, no excuses. If you are an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) you are an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*), it is that simple. You can bring up personal experiences until the cow comes home but the reality is nobody cares about you or what you make up. What we have in front of us is the genocide of Indians in America and the 400 years of slavery of Africans that you owe your entire existence to and you shall forever be indebted both spiritually and economically to them.

You have been played. Now man up.

 

Are you kidding me?? This is going to be easy...

Rodrick Dantzler
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...including-year-old-girl-shot-dead-gunman.html

Omar Thornton (Hartford Distributors shooting)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Distributors_shooting

Knoxville massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

For more visit New Nation News Forum (Google it.) They have an entire thread dedicated to black massacres, serial killers and spree killers.

Now, I'd absolutely LOVE to see this evidence you have of Euro gangs murdering 10,000 Americans each year. Considering around 10,000 homicides occur every year in America and most of them are known to be perpetuated by blacks, this should be particularly interesting viewing.

In all honesty, I think you're trolling. If so, 2/10 in my opinion.

 

So far you have failed in reading and understanding the criteria. You want to play then you have to follow the rules, the rules which I set. If you don't want to follow the rules then go play with someone else. Your links are sad stories yes but they are not even close to relevance.

 

You said .....

Not as easy as you thought was it. Your first one was 2 people, not exactly the massacre is it, it is shocking and a terrible thing but I bet you that there are more white crimes like the one you quoted.
The second one was a disgruntled employee and he said it was due to the racism he received, now lots of white Americans go on these sort of shooting rampages, I don't even need to quote them as they are general knowledge.
The third one was somone suffering from bi-polar. Now I have a degree in Neuro so I know about bi-polar as well as the fact that my own son has it.

None of these though seem racial except they guy who was racially vilified by whites.

Now I can see how your links help OUR argument, not sure how they help yours though.

 

But this was easy



Good old boy eh? killed 16 people and wounded 32. Dysfunctional family and authoritarian father ... hmmmm



22 deaths (including the perpetrator James Huberty) and the injuries of 19 others.

Domestic violence was frequent in the Huberty household,



killed 14 wounded 6

He was making delivery errors and frequently delivered mail later than the customers were used to getting it. On the afternoon of August 19, 1986, Sherrill was reprimanded by two supervisors in a glassed-in office.



6 dead



Killed 22 at Luby's Cafeteria in Texas

and this interesting link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/26/zurana-horton-hero-children-gunfire

 

Kidnapped, tortured, murdered 27 boys



Canibal child killer



Couldn't leave David out ... could I



Killed nine

wife divorced him .... good reason

 

I really do not think, IMO, that when you live in a country where a child under 15 is 25 times more likely to be shot then in all the western countries combined that you really can comment much. Maybe clean up your act, get rid of racism which seems rife in your country, get rid of all your guns, then when you are acting a little more civilised you can comment. Hmmmm?

 

Hispanics are several times more likely to kill than whites. Blacks are even more likely to commit violence.

So without knowing the answer before hand, I am just going to pull up the statistics for a hispanic country, a black country, and two white countries that are less prosperous. Here is the homicide rate per 100,000 people in different countries for 2010:

Southern Africa 32
Mexico 18
Estonia 6.3
Ireland 1.25

Now, again without knowing before hand the answer, I am going to look at the statistics for Canada in 1960, when their population was nearly all white...

Here is what I found from an online article about Canada: "The homicide rate fell to 1.62 for every 100,000 population, its lowest level since 1966, the agency says."

The homicide rate in Canada in 1961 was about 1.3, according to this source:
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2009004/article/10929-eng.htm

And I also found this, which clearly shows that although the murder rate in Canada has not increased too much, other forms of crime have seen a drastic increase: http://www.thefreeradical.ca/research/violentCrimeStatsCanada.html

Canada has seen so much recent immigration that 15% of Canada's population is now foreign born!

Now to be fair, let us suppose that South Africa and Mexico were not a fair example. I am going to pick another random Latin American country. I am going to exclude Argentina and Uruguay because they both have significantly high white populations. Brazil and Venezuela seem like good choices. And for another black country I am going to pick the Dominican Republic (which is not in the African continent but is mostly comprised of blacks. I heard learned of this country's existence from tourist advertisements) Sound fair?
So let us see what the results are...

Dominican Republic: 24
Brazil: 23
Venezuela: 49

Now I will be really fair and pick a white country that I would expect to have more crime than most, the Ukraine. I have heard all sorts of bad things in the news about it. Let us see what their murder rate is...

Ukraine: 7

Well, I hope this proves my point to you. When the USA lets in more immigrants from other races, they are sure to see their murder rate shoot up to unprecedented numbers. Different races are NOT the same! It is like different breeds of dogs, some breeds are much more aggressive than others, despite them both being the same "species".

I want to emphasize again that I did not have any idea what the statistics would be before I picked the countries, other than knowing that white countries would certainly have a lower crime rate than black or brown countries.

You need to stop refusing to see the obvious.