Illegals commit far fewer crimes than US-born citizens

You're sounding like a broken record. They wouldn't be committing ANY crime in the US if they weren't here in the first place. That is a fact. And I don't know about you but 100 murders is preferable to 150 murders. 100 still sucks, but it's better than 150.

 

Wow....100% of all illegals are committing a crime. Hence the word "illegal"

 

That's fine

I do not agree personally, I believe that citizens should be given certain due welfare (for example, social security). I also do not have a problem with illegal immigrants helping pay for said welfare. I also believe that illegal immigrants should not be entitled to said welfare, unless they go through the full process of becoming a US citizen.

That depends actually

For example, under federal law, overstaying a visa is not considered to be a crime, it is instead considered to be a civil offense (note that the majority of illegal immigrants are overstayed visas). If the individual is a minor it is not considered to be a crime or a civil offense for that person. In short, no 100% of immigrants are not committing a crime, in fact the majority are not

 

Well- Biden is not an illegal, and he has violated the immigration laws thousands of times, so you may have a point.

 

No, it absolutely did not. The thread brought to the forefront who the criminals are in this country and it’s not the people they would like to blame.

 

I have no idea who you’re responding to as I have several people on ignore. My guess is you’re responding to someone who can’t define what a woman is but can define what an invasion is even though it’s a bigger word with more letters and syllables.

 

How so? The have a huge tax free underground economy. If you live in a state flooded with illegals you would find this is common knowledge.

 

Trying to change the meaning of illegal... now that is pretty rich...

 

How so? Well for starters most do pay taxes, and most do not commit welfare fraud.

 

Uhh no actually, I am explaining the difference between a criminal offense and a civil offense. Overstaying a visa is not a criminal offense under US federal law. That's not my opinion, that's according to federal US law

https://immigration.procon.org/ques...onsidered-a-federal-crime-vs-a-civil-offense/

 

Do you believe the illegals who pay taxes offset the cost of all the illegals? There are medical costs, schooling, court and prison costs.

 

Of course you do. He is an awful person. I don't understand your desire to emulate him. You already refuted your own false claim when you said "Everyone supports the legal entry" While many exaggerate the harm resulting from illegal immigration, you are going to the other extreme by ignoring the pain and suffering innocent people face before they get here.

Politicians on both sides are feeding us BS, so lets take a look at non-partisan facts:

Illegal immigrants must pass through territories controlled by the cartels. These thugs collect their pay in many forms. Some pay in cash, while others pay with their bodies. These cartels control these poor people through fear and violence. Our poor border policies provide these cartels with a steady stream of income allowing their organization to grow stronger. This worsens the quality of life south of our borders.

Those with a genuine concern for these people could donate to one of many reputable charities and each dollar goes much further south of the border.

Getting back to the political aspect of this issue, politicians only want the votes, and the extreme levels of pain and suffering are acceptable to those seeking to gain/maintain power.

The position of allowing illegal immigration is not one of concern for humanity or reducing violent crime. The only thing worse than people hating you is politicians caring about you.

 

1. Illegal immigrants tend to be the young and able bodied who use the healthcare system less, and they also tend to get their healthcare coverage from private sources.

2. Basic K through 12 schooling is known to be a greater benefit to our system than an expense. This is true whether you are a citizen, or an immigrant. In fact this is the very reason why K through 12 became the standard pretty much everywhere

3. Illegal immigrants have a lower tendency than citizens to commit crimes that land them in prison, and often times when they do commit these crimes, they are deported instead of spending longer sentences in our prison system

 

And going to jail is not the last thing local criminals want?

Illegal immigrants commit less crimes because they came here to WORK. If they were prone to committing crimes, they would have been better off in the countries they came from.

 

You are the one claiming visa overstay issues are mixed in the illegal title…. Silly word games get so old….

 

"Illegal" and "criminal" are not the same thing. Everything criminal is illegal but not everything illegal is criminal. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor, unless you are a repeat offender, and most illegal immigrants don't cross the border illegally.

 

100% of all illegals are committing a crime. Hence the word illegal.
You folks play your childish games on who YOU claim is "illegal"...
and what part of "misdemeanor" do you claim is NOT a crime?.

 

Someone didn't read the whole post before "responding".

 

Well first I need to ignore the crime of them being here illegally hence the label "ILLEGALS"

Then I would still state that I don't care if the percentage is lower, why do I want to inherit some other countries ******* if even one serial killer comes over with the crowd?

 

"undocumented" is a progressive word for illegal that tries to sugar coat the action.

Nice try though.

 

Was that the word I used? Also, you might want to read the posts. Poor try.

 

But some illegal immigrants do commit murder and other crimes in this country. Regardless of the percentages of illegal vs legal vs citizens, those serious crimes like murder, rape, etc cause human suffering in this country. My question to you is this:

How much of the human suffering caused by the crimes committed in this country by illegal immigrants is acceptable to you?

None?
Some?
All of it?

 

Considering that they are much less dangerous than citizens, I see them as people who need a helping hand more than as potential criminals, as the right perceives them.

 

Allow me to ask my question again:

But some illegal immigrants do commit murder and other crimes in this country. Regardless of the percentages of illegal vs legal vs citizens, those serious crimes like murder, rape, etc cause human suffering in this country. My question to you is this:

How much of the human suffering caused by the crimes committed in this country by illegal immigrants is acceptable to you?

None?
Some?
All of it?

 

Ok, lets look at this using facts and logic rather than pro illegal feelings.

1. The people who screamed about defunding the police are now using crime numbers to demonize Americans compared to illegals

2. While demonizing Americans, the left stops short of telling us which American demographic is committing those crimes. No surprise there and every one of us knows why.

3. The left is using those murders to somehow dismiss and trivialize the murders and crimes committed by illegals that NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED if they weren't here. Heck, the illegals are heroes, statues need to be built to honor them.

3a. The United States has a murder rate of 4.9 per 100k people, the country just south of us has a murder rate of 49 per 100k and it doesn't get much better as you head south. Does anyone believe only the good ones come here?

4. With the murder rate of the USA being 4.9 per 100k, would anyone on the left brag if 100,000 illegals showed up, committed just one murder but it was a murder of someone the left loved?

5. By dismissing the murders and crimes committed in this country by both citizens and illegals, the left is insulting the crime victims and their families.

6. Remember when the left used to say 'if it saves just one life?' They don't say that any more.