I'm convinced that only pot smokers support legalizing marijuana

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  1. Taxpayer

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    Flip back, this is about a guy smoking weed in a duplex and the smell going into the second unit. If you add chlorine to the well you won't have a health risk, it'll just smell a little funny. Like the air in you living room when the guy in the next unit tokes up.

    The health risks of THC are less well known, but we know a whole lot about the carcinogenic risks of breathing smoke. Coal smoke, wood smoke, tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke... breathe enough of it and you will have a health problem.




     
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    If they person in the second unit wants to complain to the landlord that is fine, and if the landlord throws them out then so be it. I would disagree and were I looking to rent would certainly not rent from them but that is their choice. There is however no reason to elevate the situation past the landlord. Also air is not a public utility. That said if the landlord wants to add a safe amount of bleach to the water because he's insane then whatever. So long as he's not poisoning anyone I don't see the issues. Also, again, would not rent from them.
     
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    Air is not a public utility. Neither is ground water. They are community resources, and we have plenty of laws limiting what an individual can put into the earth, water, and air we are all exposed to. You want to draw the line between burning coal and burning marijuana, you're welcome to your opinion that's where it should be drawn. Others may reasonably disagree.



     
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    Is there a law saying you can't burn coal? I burn all sorts of things in my firepit and it's not an issue. If I were to do so at an industrial level there would be due to the huge amount of pollution being put out, but an individual isn't much of an issue. As for reasonable I don't see where any reasonable person can say that a small amount of smoke burned on a property should constitute a crime. It would be like someone trying to outlaw incense because they smelled it coming from the neighbors house. I know it sucks sometimes but in a free nation you occasionally have to deal with people doing things you may not like.
     
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    There are laws restricting and in some places completely banning burning coal. Inhaling coal smoke causes asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, bronchitis, emphysema, lung cancer, stroke and birth defects. The world health organization estimates 4.3 million people a year die prematurely from household air pollution caused by burning wood and coal in homes.



     
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    So you think that burning wood should be banned? Is that where this is going?
     
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    I think people shouldn't pee in a public pool and I think similar respect should be shown with regard to emissions into the atmosphere that you and your neighbor live and breathe in. How to balance one guys right to breathe with another's right to emit and where exploring that balance will take us... couldn't tell you.

    But I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss those concerns with a joke. Odds are we heard that joke before blowing off concerns about methanol, fertilizer, mercury, smog, tobacco, asbestos, or leaded gasoline.




     
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    Does Portugal have a Meth problem? I have seen what that wicked drug can do.

     
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    As a person who doesn't smoke weed, I've never gotten that.
     
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    Not really that hard, I have no problem with you or anybody else smoking weed in your own homes. That said, I don't particularly want a regular weed smoker in my social circle, and I certainly don't want my kids smoking it.

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    Marijuana legalization wouldn't be a bad thing. It probably wouldn't be a good thing either. It would exchange one set of problems for another.

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    Nah, it's a thread that won't die.
     
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    no, he missed the comma, it should have been "Next, just like cannabis, opium was largely legal...."

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    He should have the freedom to enjoy his property without the pollution from his neighbor's garage bothering him.

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    If the smoke goes outside of the house, it's equivalent to pissing on the town streets.

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    It's irritating to some.
     
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    Its irritating for me to listen to my neighbors fight, watch a loud movie, cook gross food, etc... are they banned from doing those things because it is "irritating " ?
     
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    If not, the show "cops" wouldn't have enough material to go on the air once a week.




     
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    Someone has never heard of LEAP (law enforcement against prohibition.)
     
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    There is no longer any delegated Power to Prohibit forms of Commerce. We have a Commerce Clause.
     
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    Most American's don't drink, smoke, surf, go to church or vote.




     
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    Smart people support legalization. Not only smart people that smoke weed.
     
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    In some case yes. You can be arrested for arguing too loud, or watching too loud of a movie, too late (noise ordinances). Gross food doesn't cause cancer, second hand smoke can.
     
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    It's hard not to make a joke when you're using the smell that may or may not waft toward you from a joint as a reason to ban marijuana when you most probably emit thousands of times fouler odors just by driving to work or eating a burrito for lunch.
     
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    Stoned people support legalization. Sober people don't.
     
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    I don't smoke.... anything.

    However, I see the benefits here:
    > Free up police resources (and therefore costs).
    > Free up prison spaces (and therefore costs).
    > Reduces income to gangs.
    > Generate income for tax (quite a lot).
    > Reduce other drug use because you reduce access (it's not a "gateway drug" IMO if they don't have to get it from a dealer that also sells other drugs - IMO why it is classed as such).
    > Possibly generate job creation if certain shops need to sell, and to grow.
    > People who do smoke feel less judged, don't have to worry about being arrested.
    > People will NOT start turning up to work stoned, at least no more so that those who turn up drunk.


    I'm sure there are other benefits.
    I don't see any negative issues, aside from possible health, but there are plenty of other things out there which are legal that have health issues. Alcohol is way worse than marijuana, IMO, and I drink without being questioned.. but I'm probably going to have various health problems later. The amount of coffee (a drug) I drink will likely do the same. Sugar. The amount of health issues with sugar today...

    Sure, I could have health problems with marijuana... but I guess not if I only baked it into cookies. You don't have to smoke it, but if it's about health, give people a choice.

    I couldn't care if you were drunk or stoned. I see no real difference.

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    Sure, but cigarette smoking is banned in public places around the world, but cigarettes are not. I don't see any reason to ban a sale that allows someone to use a product in their own home (at least)... not to mention you don't have to smoke marijuana.
     
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    Stoned people know not to repeat the historical mistake of Prohibition, some sober people don't.
     
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