I'm sorry for your loss.

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  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When science figures out a way to fix that and Christians still have miscarriages be sure to let us know.

    Then I will make a thread about them.
     
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    Buddhist

    Next time round will be better
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your claim was that it is better than any society with more restrictive freedoms.

    So no matter what else your society does, in your view, as long as you have more freedom to slaughter children you are better.
     
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    Do you think this makes sense?
     
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    Do you think this makes sense?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely.

    We can do nothing about miscarriages therefore it shouldn't even enter the discussion.

    This thread is not about God and not once do I bring that up in the OP.

    I was talking about the regret women have when they abort their child.

    Now stay on topic.
     
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    He does, it's in the bible, maybe you should read it.
     
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    Right, but the only argument against abortion involves god. And god is of course terrible.
     
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    Most first world countries have less restrictive abortion laws. Sweden, Switzerland, Canada, the US, France ... bass-awards countries like Mexico, Sudan, Afghanistan, have very restrictive abortion laws. Anti- abortion dogma is more a reflection of incompetence and poor medical conditions than anything else.
     
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    What if the babies brain is growing outside of it's skull, what if it only has a brain stem and once born will only suffer pain until the babies dies?

    Should those women feel bad if they abort those babies? Do you think they will feel good that they let a baby suffer everyday until it dies?

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/late-term-abortion-rape_n_5c630b8de4b0a8731aeabbd6

    I was raped when I was 17 years old. I had a baby when I was 18 years old. My baby died when I was 19 years old.

    ......

    My daughter was born Oct. 27, 2005. I named her Zoe Lily. I did not want to touch her at first, convinced I would cause her more pain. I was afraid she would die in my arms, afraid I would look at her and feel the same disgust I felt for myself. They took her away. The neurologist came and asked how we wanted to proceed. He asked if we wanted to intubate her because she lacked the instinct to suck and inquired about what other lifesaving measures we wanted to take. The most basic functions of her body were being controlled by her brainstem, but that was it. It would be a kindness, he explained, to make her comfortable and let her go in peace.

    ........

    We wrapped her in electric blankets in the middle of the Alabama summer because she couldn’t regulate her own temperature. We spent every major holiday in the hospital that year. On Thanksgiving, her lips were turning blue and she stopped eating because she had developed a kidney infection. She nearly died from the antibiotics.

    On Christmas, we watched as she was stuck over and over again for IV placements and her veins blew one by one. She was put on Zantac, anti-diuretics, Synthroid, Klonopin, lorazepam, melatonin, Miralax. She was diagnosed with diabetes insipidus. We strung up red stockings at the foot of her hospital bed and listened to the chime of her heart monitor.

    ..........

    If I had been allowed the option to choose a ‘late-term abortion,’ would I? Yes. A hundred times over, yes. It would have been a kindness. Zoe would not have had to endure so much pain in the briefness of her life.... Perhaps I could have been spared as well.
     
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    Christians do have miscarriages

    And how many of those are because the woman inadvertently used an abortifacient?

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    No it doesn't.

    Where do you get this nonsense from?

    Are you honestly trying to tell us that no atheists are against abortion?

    lol
     
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    That nice and also totally irrelevant to the point I was making.
     
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    What argument would they have?
     
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    Again, not the point of the thread.

    We could also discuss who had the best tanks in WWII but, not the point of the thread.
     
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    You make Jesus cry you know.
     
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    Or the case in Argentina where an 11 year old was raped by her grandmothers boyfriend
     
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    That's ok, he's a bad person.
     
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    Why not?

    Surely if there are so many ways to naturally terminate a pregnancy then it is not the “sacred” issue the so called pro lifers insist
     
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    What if the child would be born healthy?

    That is who this thread is for.

    Did I post pics of retarded babies in the OP?
     
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    Is a woman who has two children, but aborts because she is overwhelmed by the possibility of a third, and doesn't feel she can physically handle carrying to term, a bad mother in your eyes? Is she evil?

    Is a woman who is manic/depressive, who has to go off her meds to carry to term and she knows doing so will endanger her life and the fetus' life, an evil person for getting an abortion?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that their intention?

    If it is then feel free to lump them into the group.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes and she should have her children yanked from her and spend the rest of her life in prison.
     
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    You can post your baby pics if you want.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a site where we debate actual topics as adults.

    There is no place for your personal attacks.

    Straighten up or you won't be here much longer.

    Just a fair warning.
     
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