In Hennepin County, Minnesota islamic women want their goat meat on food stamps.

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  1. Iron River

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    I say they make only pork products available on food stamps nationwide...don't wanna be discriminatory. do we.
     
  3. Think for myself

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    I watched the video.

    I don;t know if that can be called a "demand". Seemed like a fairly reasonable conversation where all sides spoke to each other respectfully and sought to solve a problem.

    Also, it appears that they were simply asking for the food to be available, and were fine with kosher foods, which is treated in the same method sans the prayers.

    Also, note that this "article" from this right wing blog is nearly a year old.

    Another article on the topic, written with a bit less bile and bitterness, reveals the problem.

    http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/09/15/somali-group-pushes-for-non-pork-food-shelf/

    MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Food shelves can be a life line for people dealing with poverty and hunger.

    But many in the Somali-American community say finding a food shelf that caters to their religious dietary restrictions is almost impossible.

    “Some food shelves are trying to meet the need, but some of them already got canned beans that have already been mixed with pork — and there is a literacy issue here,” said community activist Fartun Weli.

    A group of first-generation Somali Americans says they need help in developing a food shelf that specializes in healthy foods that do not contain pork or pork byproducts.

    “It’s about human rights also, basic human rights to get the proper food and also healthy food,” said Imam Hassan Mohamud.

    With signs in hand, they marched to the Hennepin County commissioners’ office to ask Peter McLaughlin for help. Most live in his district and feel he can help them help themselves.

    McLaughlin and the group disagree over the availability of halal or kosher food at food shelves in Minnesota.

    He did say they would need to petition all county commissioners for the money to make this food shelf a reality.

    “The place to deal with this is going to be within the budget … our budget for next year,” McLaughlin said.

    To get the food shelf up and running will cost $150,000, but McLaughlin says there is no plan on how much would be needed to sustain it.

    The group hopes to present a proposal to the county commissioners during its budget meeting on Nov
     
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    Fine, but why not start making ALL more expensive food available to ALL the poor??? Why should Muslims be treated differently (better) , that's discrimination...
     
  5. Iron River

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    “It’s about human rights also, basic human rights to get the proper food and also healthy food,” said Imam Hassan Mohamud.

    So you don't THINK that by invoking the HUMSN RIGHTS issue it is clearly a demand.
     
  6. Think for myself

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    Are they being treated "better"? I didn't see anything in the video that would indicate anything like that. They seemed more focused on providing the elderly in their community with traditional foods.

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    Seemed like a reasonable conversation to me. Everyone seemed respectful of each pother, no one yelling or screaming.
     
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    Nothing that is not on the Michelle Obama diet should paid for with food stamps or the EBT. More Kale - Less Goat.
     
  8. Iron River

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    I have made a lot of demands over the years without screaming.

    I suppose that in your live all demands have come to you or from you at high volumes of screaming. That is a common liberal failing.

    I agree. These muslimes and other food stamp recipients should be fed only the basic necessities.
     
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    The title from the right wing blog cited in your OP.

    Muslims Food Stamp Recipients DEMAND Food Meet

    The word demand is in all capital letters. What does that mean? Let us join hands and explore it together.

    Well, in internet code, it appears that all caps means yelling.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/117390/netiquette-capitalization-how-caps-became-code-yelling



    Perhaps the issue is using such notoriously poor sources? Sources which seem to convey untruths in regards to context.

    if you have a problem with how the article you cite conveys its message., may I suggest using smarter, better written, less bigoted sources?
     
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    I would cut cane in Louisiana with a machete and live in a tent if it was the only way to stay off the M O diet.
     
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    Yes, they do expect to be treated better if they think THEY should have special (more expensive ) food !! It's free food and they're complaining!!!

    The Somalis are the "go to" people for terrorists, many have been recruited from Minneapolis.

    They sexually mutilate their women.

    Maybe they should keep a lower profile....


    And then they think they're so special they should be able to order special food that's FREE for them !!! Of all the arrogant, self centered whatevers!
     
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    I have no problem with it. The only question is whether or not there is a Halal market in the area. My city has a few that sell goat, though I am not sure whether or not they take EBT. I would imagine so since they sell all sorts of other food too.
     
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    I dont see how free food is a "human right".
     
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    Good to know. However, nothing at all to do with anything I said. Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
     
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    You said you're ok with Muslums getting goat meat (per their religion)(which isn't going to happened) Then you should be ok with Christians buying wine for the sacrament(per their religion)
     
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    What in the holy hell does that allegation have to do with the thread topic?
     
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    And yet its in the article you presented as the more accurate one.
     
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    Where is this goat meat nonsense coming from? I don't recall hearing about it in the video.

    Wine is not a "Christian" sacrament, as many Christian sects do not drink. It is something relevant to some Christians, but not others, and I am not aware of any sect, being formerly Catholic, that requires wine to be consumed outside of church.
     
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    No, that has nothing to do with anything I stated. Absolutely nothing. Not a single thing. Nothing at all. It is not core to any argument I put forty, nowhere in any of my posts do I say anything about "free food", and no where in the article I provided is that stated.
     
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    And yet this whole issue is about "Free food".

    Or is it possible that the local grocery store is called "Food Shelf".

    Hmm

    http://www.foodshelf.org/

    Well hot damn it does seem in fact that this is about free food. And per the article its being called a Human Right.
     
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    That's not an unreasonable request. If they want to eat goats, why not. Heck many Americans eat pigs and no on complains about it and they can buy it using food stamps as well.
     
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    Eh, as long as all they're doing to the goats is eating them, then I don't have a problem with it.
     
  23. Iron River

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    Perhaps, as I just suggested, you can only make astern and forceful statement/demand by yelling and if there is no yelling you just see a cordial conversation among friends.

    When I send letters of demand I don't use all capital letters. Capital letters mean that the writer wants to emphasize those words so that they will be seen.

    When you are reading along and you come to one word that is all capitals do your jump back and hold your breath as if someone screamed in you face??

    Always you come back when you have no answer. In your post there was a mention of "Human Rights"

    That looks more like screaming than all Capitals to me..

    It has to do with the idea of islamoism giving these people the religious authority to rape and kill infidels just as islamoism demands we provide them with a painlessly kill goat to eat. Next the men will be wanting a few live nanny goats??

    You didn't see it so in liberal land it never happend?

    Nor do Catholics condemn the taking of wine at meals meant to honor GOD so is muslimes get free goat meant on food stamps catholics should get free wine. Pagans should get free baby blood.

    If what YOU posted has NOTHING to do with YOUR argument then WHY did YOU POST it?? Do you post irrelevant stuff all the time?
     
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    Okay. Are the folks in the OP criminals?
     
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    Ok are Food Shelves/Banks places where people go for free food?
     

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