Indoctrination

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  1. Anansi the Spider

    Anansi the Spider Well-Known Member

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    Many embrace atheism because they won't accept any limits on their behavior. Some atheists yearn to use and discard women, murder, torture, sink into depravity. Some dangerous atheists:

    1. Mussolini - Historian Denis Mack Smith wrote that Mussolini believed: "Science had proved that God did not exist and the Jesus of history was an ignorant Jew whose family thought him mad... Religion, he said, was a disease of the psyche, an epidemic to be cured by psychiatrists, and Christianity in particular was vitiated by preaching the senseless virtues of resignation and cowardice." Mussolini even wrote a pamphlet entitled God does not exist.

    2. Stalin - Responsible for millions tortured, imprisoned, starved, shot. Learn about the Holodomor HERE.

    3. Pol Pot - Genocidal dictator of Cambodia.

    4. Peter Singer - One of the world's most influential philosophers, Utilitarian Peter Singer is a professor at Princeton.

    quote: Singer argues that it should be legal for parents to decide to have their disabled infants killed up to 28 days after birth.

    LINK

    5. Ayn Rand

    quote: Her diaries from that time, while she worked as a receptionist and an extra, lay out the Nietzschean mentality that underpins all her later writings. The newspapers were filled for months with stories about serial killer called William Hickman, who kidnapped a 12-year-old girl called Marion Parker from her junior high school, raped her, and dismembered her body, which he sent mockingly to the police in pieces. Rand wrote great stretches of praise for him, saying he represented "the amazing picture of a man with no regard whatsoever for all that a society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. A man who really stands alone, in action and in soul. … Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should." She called him "a brilliant, unusual, exceptional boy," shimmering with "immense, explicit egotism." Rand had only one regret: "A strong man can eventually trample society under its feet. That boy [Hickman] was not strong enough."

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    6. & 7. Leopold & Loeb - Inspired by Nietsche, they felt superior men such as themselves should create their own moral values. They committed what they thought was the perfect crime.

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    8. Marquis de Sade - He enjoyed torturing underage prostitutes.

    9. Herman Kahn - He wrote calmly of mass nuclear horror and enjoyed playing God.

    10. Lenin

    article: Lenin Paints Himself Black With His Own Words
     
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    Your lack of intellectual honesty never ceases to amaze me.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Try doctors without borders.

    Read your own book.


    I don't deny church being a good thing for people's lives, my issue is with the act of leaving your brain at the door.
     
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    Well if that was the only issue I (and most) would have to agree and I will say most Americans leave their brains at home when the go vote as well.
     
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    Name-calling fails to conceal your inability to refute any facts I've presented.

    The doctrines of many atheist sects/leaders encourage intolerance and violence, don't you agree?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    What sects? Which leaders are looked at as authorities on atheism?

    Are you using the same old and tired association fallacies?
     
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    Just as some religious sects/leaders call for intolerance and violence some atheist sects/leaders call for intolerance and violence, don't you agree? We've discussed many examples.
     
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    Which is irrelevant, because there is not an "atheist doctrine" that calls for such.

    There are many religious doctrines that do.
     
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    Of course not all religious doctrines call for intolerance and violence. Some call for the exact opposite.

    Please stop running from the question: Just as some religious sects/leaders call for intolerance and violence some atheist sects/leaders call for intolerance and violence, don't you agree?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    It is a secular organization. Read further.

    Then you simply ignore the inconvenient bits.

    Yes, I hate everyone who believes in god. Which is exactly why I am dating an absolutely amazing Christian woman.

    Thank you for telling me how I think.
     
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    So many atheist sects/leaders preach hate, intolerance, violence.

    Marx: Of course, in periods when the political state as such is born violently out of civil society, when political liberation is the form in which men strive to achieve their liberation, the state can and must go as far as the abolition of religion, the destruction of religion. But it can do so only in the same way that it proceeds to the abolition of private property, to the maximum, to confiscation, to progressive taxation, just as it goes as far as the abolition of life, the guillotine.

    Nietzsche: Freedom means that the manly instincts which delight in war and victory dominate over other instincts, for example, over those of "pleasure." The human being who has become free — and how much more the spirit who has become free — spits on the contemptible type of well-being dreamed of by shopkeepers, Christians, cows, females, Englishmen, and other democrats. The free man is a warrior.

    Nietzsche: Without cruelty there is no festival: thus the longest and most ancient part of human history teaches — and in punishment there is so much that is festive!

    Nietzsche: You are going to women? Do not forget the whip!

    Nietzsche: The doctrine of equality! … But there is no more venomous poison in existence: for it appears to be preached by justice itself, when it is actually the end of justice … "Equality to the equal; inequality to the unequal" — that would be true justice speaking: and its corollary, "never make the unequal equal".

    Sam Harris (an insignificant figure compared to the first two, yet he is the idol of the anti-Christian cranks you occasionally meet up with on the internet): The link between belief and behavior raises the stakes considerably. Some propositions are so dangerous that it may be ethical to kill people for believing them. This may seem an extraordinary claim, but it merely enunciates an ordinary fact about the world in which we live.
     
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    As I said before, lieing is hardly a noble attribute.

    I suggest reading the page I posted from Harris's blog.
     
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    Did he write it or not? Yes or no?
     
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    What you post is out of context, conveniently excluding the premise of a radical Islamic government possessing a nuclear weapon with intent to use it against a civilian target.

    Honestly. It is important.

    http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/response-to-controversy2

    Even a small child could understand this.
     
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    No. Harris projects evil intentions and complete irrationality onto his opponent - thus conveniently justifying Harris' own evil, his own irrationality.

    Maybe you should contact that child you seem really confused. lol You quoted the wrong insane statement from Harris. There are so many I guess it's hard to keep them straight.

    Sorry you are so brainwashed you can't see that Harris is an intolerant madman.
     
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    So you are saying that an radical Islamic country could be trusted with nuclear weapons?

    Why is your position contrary to military strategists?
     
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    Some beliefs truly are that dangerous. People who go around saying that HIV doesn't cause AIDS are among the most dangerous in the world, right behind Christian missionaries who go to Africa and tell people there that condom use is a sin. Communism has already racked up an impressive kill count. Zionism could very well be the flint that creates the spark that ignites World War 3.

    I thought most of those were somewhat clever... especially the subtle reference to blueshift.

    Wrong. You're ignoring all of the atheist Objectivists and Utilitarians out there.

    Those are slightly more rare than perpetual motion machines.
     
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    Your opposition to free speech (and even free thought!) is noted.

    Christian leaders favor monogamy which is a good way to stop the spread of AIDS.

    quote regarding condoms: ‘We have found no consistent associations between condom use and lower HIV-infection rates, which, 25 years into the pandemic, we should be seeing if this intervention was working.”
    So notes Edward C. Green, director of the AIDS Prevention Research Project at the Harvard Center for Population and Development Studies, in response to papal press comments en route to Africa this week.

    LINK

    Very true. Do you support killing people with Communist beliefs? Nazi beliefs?

    I agree. Israel is one of the most secular countries in the world. Many religious Jews are strongly opposed to Zionism.

    Jews Against Zionism

    I see your point, but these philosophies you mention have problems of their own.

    Peter Singer - One of the world's most influential philosophers, Utilitarian Peter Singer is a professor at Princeton.

    quote: Singer argues that it should be legal for parents to decide to have their disabled infants killed up to 28 days after birth.

    LINK

    Ayn Rand

    quote: Her diaries from that time, while she worked as a receptionist and an extra, lay out the Nietzschean mentality that underpins all her later writings. The newspapers were filled for months with stories about serial killer called William Hickman, who kidnapped a 12-year-old girl called Marion Parker from her junior high school, raped her, and dismembered her body, which he sent mockingly to the police in pieces. Rand wrote great stretches of praise for him, saying he represented "the amazing picture of a man with no regard whatsoever for all that a society holds sacred, and with a consciousness all his own. A man who really stands alone, in action and in soul. … Other people do not exist for him, and he does not see why they should." She called him "a brilliant, unusual, exceptional boy," shimmering with "immense, explicit egotism." Rand had only one regret: "A strong man can eventually trample society under its feet. That boy [Hickman] was not strong enough."

    LINK

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