Intelligent design is back?

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Inteligent design is back ?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
    What I found interesting about the video, is the simple fact that it showed notable scientists and philosophers of science placing the theory of the origin of life in the spotlight of scrutiny by other scientists and the public as well. Also is the intense amount of information regarding evolution and how changes are made at the cellular level and how slight changes can render the organism incapable of functioning (and potentially killing the organism) in the manner in which it was already functioning. Though the ending of the video did not reach any substantive conclusions, it is evident that there are scientists who are in opposition to the theories set out by Darwin. ​
    The bottom line question that is left unanswered on the video is “where did the information that is contained in the DNA come from?” Some of the speakers in the video claim that the information could not have come from what is called “chemical evolution”, and they also provide their reasoning behind rejecting that idea.​

    What do you suppose would be the source of “intelligent design”? God? : or some other form of intelligence that is currently unapproachable by man?​
     
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    Gelecski7238 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Finding an answer may not be as difficult as it may seem.

    Look at what trend is apparent in the history of this planet: Progressive evolution of intelligence and consciousness, culminating in us.

    It is a pattern that can be expected to continue, and if not in us, then probably elsewhere. With only 10% of our brains being utilized, there’s plenty of potential left.

    Since earth has been in existence for only the last 4.5 billion years, there are other parts of the 13.5 billion year old universe that have had opportunities for growth and development billions of years before earth existed. However, the last 1 million year period of our development is the more significant part. Therefore some of the others could be unimaginably more advanced than us.

    Given the logic of projecting the development of intelligence/consciousness, the unavoidable conclusion is that the existence of a master intelligence is highly probable. It is not too far-fetched to consider that projection to have reached the capacity of a creator. We humans have similar behavior on a smaller scale.
     
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    Such conclusions are based on probabilities/guesswork and presumption/assumption; BUT I did ask for suppositions. Good post... thank you.
     
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    Gee.. it seems that the naysayers and non-theists are desiring to avoid this thread. Are they afraid of something being revealed?
     
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    Shoddy science, well-known hacks, terrible editing... I urge everyone to avoid this video, as you won't get that time back.
     
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    So you are now advocating the logical fallacy of avoidance. Very intelligent and illogical thing for you to advocate.
     
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    Michio Kako postulates three categories of civilizations in our universe according to developmental level and capacity to manipulate their environment on a large scale (types I, II, and III). We are type zero.

    His futuristic outlook anticipates mankind’s supposed acquisition of awesome powers. I haven’t yet read his books, but if we extend such a vision further, it promotes mankind to ever higher positions of influence and involvement in the workings of solar systems, galaxies, and universes. Perhaps this pattern gives rise to superbeings: gods who assume jurisdiction over vast domains and strive to accomplish…who knows what?

    Modern Theosophy entertains the gist of such a progression.

    The idea of achieving creator status this way might be too much of a stretch. We should wait until more is known before we try to contemplate creatordom. If the secret of DNA is locked up in creatordom, we may have a long wait.

    Huge as our universe is and home to billions of galaxies, it is still growing. There could be much opportunity for us to become something more than earth-bound meatheads. So many meatheads, all dressed up and no place to go?

    Doubters can easily discount the likelihood of said scenario since any such hierarchy should not be hidden from us, but how many rich parents hang gold coins above their infant’s playpens (within sight but not within grasp for swallowing)?

    Energy, consciousness, and awareness are not directly tangible. Much of the vibratory spectrum is not subject to our oversight. We can hardly claim that it is not being used for activities that we cannot detect and identify.
     
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    Interesting thoughts Gelecski7238, but like you inferred,, it is speculation. On the other side of that coin, many parents (rich, poor, Theist and non-theist) utilize the old 'imagery magic' as a means of influencing their immediate and short term futures, in a hope that such imagery will manifest as a personal benefit.
     

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