Iowa Caucuses drew 15% of state's registered Republicans. Why the lower turnout?

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Really? I did not know that...

    Well, Congrats Mr. Trump..... only took you 8 years.....

    Too much Winning for me to handle...
     
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    ^Exactly.
    No unique knowledge there.
    The SAME can be said for every Iowa Caucus (or for that matter, NH Primary) ever held.
     
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    It’s true.

    Trump did win majorities in some primaries. But that was only after he had gathered enough delegates to win the nomination.

    Where it counted, Trump was only the plurality candidate.
     
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    It was really effing cold! A lot of seniors, especially, likely chose to skip it. I would have stayed home if I were a Trump voter, as we knew he would win. Those hardy souls who braved it out have my deepest respect. BRRRRR!!!

    :sick:
     
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    In fairness, did anyone have a doubt about the outcome? See #29.
     
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    It could just be that primaries tend to have low turnout and this one was during a huge snowstorm.
     
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    True, but it's not like they caucus outside, or car heater technology hasn't made it to Iowa....

    Nobody in Iowa was Ernest Shackleton on Monday night...
     
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    No, not by ANY definition. Only by the raw comparison of percentage points. And don’t get me wrong…by that comparison alone, he had a convincing victory…

    BUT, the current situation is unique.

    Only a tiny fraction of registered voters turned out. Ok, let’s blame the weather for keeping the others home.

    You still have the problem of the fact that, of those who did turn out, around half of them wanted someone else as their Republican nominee. And this is for the person who is the leader of the party and who is, figuratively, the ‘incumbent’ as far as Republicans are concerned.

    Oh, and let’s not forget the number of Republicans polled who have stated that they would drop The Stain like a hot rock if he is convicted on ANY of his criminal charges…
     
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    They were literally pulling votes written on scrap paper out of a popcorn bucket.

    I see the Republicans brought their most secure voting system available. Truly, a model for the nation.
     
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    You mean the drummed up criminal charges that the Demcrats are using to influence a national election? Those charges? Yes, by all means, try to count us as stupid and uninformed when it comes to these matters.

    I suppose that BOB Dole's 12% victory was also not a landslide?

     
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    The temperature here in the mountains was -5 that same evening -- I think it may have been a record here, not sure. Anyway, there is no way you could have gotten me out in that cold unless I favored a candidate that was running a close second.
     
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    No. If you cared to observe the national impact, you would know that the major influence in bringing those charges is evidence brought by REPUBLICANS.

    And anyway, as each of those charges have been laid, there has been an INCREASE in support for The Stain amongst his followers. Kind of undoes your “trying to influence the election” plot…no?
     
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    Thats the same way Democrats do it WHEN they participate in the Iowa Caucus. They decided to skip it this year and instead have Iowa democrats just mail in their vote over the next couple of months.
    Bidens skipping the New Hampshire primary as well because the DNC views it as meaningless.
     
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    This. And you heard ZERO concerns about election integrity. No, those concerns only come up when Trump loses. It's all so transparent, it is really mind boggling to me how almost 50% of Americans don't see through this.
     
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    Technically, if it was a record LOW turnout, they could still call it a "record turnout" and be factually correct.

    The art of fake news is using only facts to lead the listener to a false conclusion. If that's what they did here, it's a good example.
     
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    Republicans only seem concerned about election security in states they are trying to steal or manipulate the vote.
     
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    One word for the low voter turn out-Trump.
     
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    No you didnt. This is your only post on the entire forum with the words "record" and "turnout"

    Imagined scenarios are frequently surreal.
     
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    Search again but you are nit picking for a strawman it would appear, you might also want to ponder the word "elsewhere".

    It is said that trolling is more effective long lining with a slow zig and zag. Even the occasional neutral..
     
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    Look up "blizzard".
     
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    Thanks RWKindaguy for re-educating me on the numbers I provided in the OP, I appreciate you. You are apparently truly a service to your political leanings.
     
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    Meaningless doesn't even begin to describe this ballot

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    I'm personally torn between Paperboy Love Prince and Vermin Supreme (who will also appear on the GOP ballot under a more familiar name)

    Mystifying how a state can make a state law about a national election that simply cannot be enforced...
     
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    I don't disagree with you aside from my gripe about the use of emotive language by the media that becomes largely interpreted by the general public as meaning more than the facts of the vote.

    Yes, in political science it was a landslide, but in terms of it being a landslide according to its broader connotation, well, we'll see if we see its reflection in the snow covered hill come 241105, and if we do it will certainly bring US down.

    The polysci thing is somewhat fascinating. I've noticed for the first time in my life that phrases such as "Democracy works", or "We've proven that Democracy can work" have been made, including the breathless whisper that Joe likes to affect when he's been the one speaking this phrase. The obvious contrast is I suppose China's Xi Jinping and his path to power.
     
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    My take on this is most or at least a plurality don’t care who the leaders of this nation are. On average 45% of all Americans since 1960 don’t bother to vote in a presidential election. 2020 was very unique and very high compared to the average. We also have 60% who don’t care or bother to vote in the midterms on average.


    Both major parties are passionate about voting and letting their feelings show. Independents not so. But that may be because they have no skin in the game. Republicans and Democrats choose the candidates, they own them. Independents own nothing, they just a casual observer who vote when they do vote way below their percentage of the electorate.


    You have this from Gallup - Independent Party ID Tied for High; Democratic ID at New Low


    https://news.gallup.com/poll/548459/independent-party-tied-high-democratic-new-low.aspx


    and this - Americans sour on the primary election process and major political parties, an AP-NORC poll says


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-sour-primary-election-process-051646937.html
     
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