Iran parliament increases missile funds to confront US

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  1. Margot2

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    Assad was the only candidate.. Syria has a long history of coups since 1945.. and a long history of cruel oppression, assassination and thuggery before the droughts, inflation, collapse of agriculture and the oil sector in 2005.

    Please don't tell me that your source on Syria is global research.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you building a big straw man by suggesting I said something I did not ? (not Russia or China)

    The US is by far the number one supporter of terrorism in a contest between US/China/Russia .. at least in relation to supporting terrorists outside its borders.
     
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    I don't know, Ardy.. Hariri's life has been threatened by Iran.. Syria murdered his father.. This is getting really messy.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure about Stalin but, if you knew anything about Syria ( an it is abundantly clear that you do not) you would realize that there are a whole lot of people in Syria fighting on the side of Assad .... against the US armed and supported terrorists.
     
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    That's because the page (that you couldn't possibly have the time to read between your posts) was about Hamas.

    And yes, the US did encourage communism in WWII. Churchill was out of himself about it, but like in every military startegic move he ever did, he was wrong, because it's the commies that beat the Nazis, not the Anglos.

    The US, by the way, also gave aid and comfort to Al-Qeada in the last Cold war days. You know, at the time of Rambo III.
     
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    Please do not tell me that anything coming out of your mouth in relation to Syria should be taken seriously.

    Myself and numerous others have refuted numerous demonstrably false claims by you in relation to Syria numerous times. (Shall I list a few ?)

    Second ... demonizing the source is not an argument for much.
     
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  7. Max Rockatansky

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    You did. You said "Someday, when the US abandon's its terrorist inclinations, all nations will live in peace and harmony." Ergo, you believe the only nation in the world preventing peace and harmony is the United States. Are you backpedaling from that opinion?
     
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    You're false accusation about my reading abilities doesn't cover up the fact there is nothing about ISIL on your link.

    Your failure to understand history, specifically about the US supporting the USSR against the greater evil of the Third Reich explains why you do not understand Israel's encouragement of Hamas.
     
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    You clearly missed the obvious sarcasm = using the exact same words as the OP but switching out Iran for the US.
     
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    And neither does Israel, since they repeated it with ISIL (that they helped, not created), against Assad.

    Provocations, troubles and chaos - It's all what Israel, parasite nation, ever does.
     
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    And the propagandist seem to forget that Syria is not the US. And they seem to forget how most other gov'ts are in that part of the world are. Ignoring context is mandatory. Just as demonization is mandatory when it comes to propaganda.

    So what are the real motives for us wanting to remove assad? You can bet the motives the propaganda gives us, are not the actual motives. So, bring out the bucket of lies, and manufacture consent using that bucket. Most of us will easily fall for it, as our own history evidences If it works, then why change it? If it works, use it like a worn out beer joint fiddle. And of course that is what happens.

    But look out if you own a rational, informed, critical mind. For the common term used to apply to this group is, tin foil hatter. Conspiracy theorists, and the CIA knew how well this would work when they coined that term and shared it with MSM, who then shared it with the non critical thinkers,. And look at well it worked! It is one of the most played cards, right behind the racist card and nazi card. But that deck is full of cards that appeal to the emotions. And none that appeal to the critical minds. Yes, it is a dirty deck, used by dirty people.
     
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  12. Max Rockatansky

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    Your support for Assad and hatred of the US is clear, but I think you are wrong. BTW, "a whole lot of people" isn't very exact. Let me help you with some facts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
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    Ahhh, so like Trump, you always blame others and never admit error. Got it. Thanks.
     
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    Just because you have no material is not reason to spout falsehoods about my character.

    Here are some facts to help you... from previous link that you obviously did not read.

    If you like I can dig up an analysis from "Westpoint" that talks about why the Syrian people support Assad.

    Regardless. What does this have to do with your nonsense attempt to claim Syria was not secular.

    What part of - "Syria is a Secular Nation" do you not understand ?
     
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    Don't blame me for your ignorance of context and the word sarcasm ?

    Unlike you, I have often admitted error on this Forum :)
     
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    Odd ain't it, how we rail against terrorism while engaging in it.
     
  17. Max Rockatansky

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    Dude, your character was made clear by your support for Assad, Russia and your hatred of the United States.
     
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    You do understand this actually means nothing at all don't you? "Oh you didn't say what I want to hear so you are xyz".
     
  19. Max Rockatansky

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    Incorrect. You've repeatedly responded with opinion in the face of facts. You're anti-American. Fine, but I disagree with you for it. You're socialist and anti-capitalist. Again, fine, but again I disagree with you about it.
     
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    Well, as long as ya got yer labels.
     
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    Israel offered a "2 state solution" under a permanent military Israeli presence, where Palestina may never have an army. Where the WB would have been cut up in 3 sections, so Israel can keep full control on who moves from one place to an other, and disrupt it and it's economy when it pleases. That's an utterly pathetic offer. Just disturbed you call it like that as if the Palestinians did something wrong by refusing such a peace of crap.

    Also... so much for "If the Muslims were to stop attacking Israel"...
    it's Israel who ethnic cleanses Muslims beyond their border to thieve land and colonize it.... in total violation of the Geneva Conventions.
     
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    Not clear on how this relates to missile development

    Fwiw, clearly Iran’s strategic interests conflict with our own.
    Also, it is evident that Iran has some fairly despicable people with significant power

    That said, we cannot prevent the existence of countries whose interests conflict with our own. And it is pretty obvious that most countries discover that despicable people are attracted politically powerful positions... I dare say we can even observe this phenomena in the USA

    We cannot reasonably assume that we can eliminate strategic conflict, nor that we can demand countries have no despicable people in their politics. So then we must consider what we can do on the margin....what we can do short of totally achieving or desired objectives

    What IMO is NOT USEFUL is to demand countries submit to total compliance with our strategic vision. That sort of all or nothing approach has two possible outcomes. The most likely of possible outcomes is not an appealing result
     
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    Man I can't turn on the tele these days without hearing raging hypocrisy. Not just in relation to "terrorism" either. Our political leaders are clowns and the media are clown puppets.
     
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    Quit accusing me of your flaws. You are the one who hates the USA and loves terrorists.
     
  25. Max Rockatansky

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    Feel free to quote me where I've done either one. In the meantime, there's this little gem:
     

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