Iran parliament increases missile funds to confront US

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    ''Iran parliament increases missile funds to confront US''




    Still waiting for proof ...
     
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    Hardly, and it is even more deeply engaged in terrorist/criminal operations across the mideast, including interfering in 6 nations governance and functioning, including lebanon whose PM just resigned because of iranian interference in the country.

    I should point out here how so many anti-american whiners complain so much about the minor role the US had in 1953 in iran's removal of their PM (even if it was justifiable) - but are silent or excuse away iran's FAR more violent, corrupt and despicable interference in so many neighboring countries.

    http://www.un.org/en/sc/2231/restrictions-arms.shtml

    Resolution 2231 (2015)
    Arms-related transfers
    What is the restriction on arms-related transfers to Iran?
    Paragraph 5 of Annex B of resolution 2231 (2015) stipulates that all States may participate in and permit, provided that the Security Council decides in advance on a case-by-case basis to approve:
    • the supply, sale or transfer directly or indirectly from or through their territories, or by their nationals or individuals subject to their jurisdiction, or using their flag vessels or aircraft, and whether or not originating in their territories, to Iran, or for the use in or benefit of Iran, of any battle tanks, armoured combat vehicles, large calibre artillery systems, combat aircraft, attack helicopters, warships, missiles or missile systems, as defined for the purpose of the United Nations Register of Conventional Arms, or related materiel, including spare parts, and
    • the provision to Iran by their nationals or from or through their territories of technical training, financial resources or services, advice, other services or assistance related to the supply, sale, transfer, manufacture, maintenance, or use of arms and related materiel described above.
    What is the restriction on arms-related transfers from Iran?
    Paragraph 6 (b) of Annex B of resolution 2231 (2015) further stipulates that all States are to take the necessary measures to prevent, except as decided otherwise by the Security Council in advance on a case-by-case basis, the supply, sale, or transfer of arms or related materiel from Iran by their nationals or using their flag vessels or aircraft and whether or not originating in the territory of Iran.

    https://www.un.org/press/en/2010/sc9948.doc.htm

    "“9. Decides that Iran shall not undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons, including launches using ballistic missile technology, and that States shall take all necessary measures to prevent the transfer of technology or technical assistance to Iran related to such activities;"

    As you can see from the above, this is wrong.

    The rest of the planet as represented by the UN disagrees with you.

    He said and did no such thing, all he did was kick it to congress to ratify or not, since according to the US constitution, it is congress' job to do so. The issue is that the lowlife POS MSM manipulates the opinions of uniformed people into viewing Trump as a monster, even if he does nothing wrong.

    obama agreed to the deal without congressional approval via EO, that always made the deal suspect. That it cannot be applied to sites iran opts to call "military" and has no real mechanism of enforcement in a timely fashion is further proof of the deal's failings. Add that to the fact that obama's senior advisors had to lie to the public and obscure money transfers to "sell" and complete the deal would prove to most objective observers the deal was not legitimate in any way.
     
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    http://www.aei.org/publication/iran-budget-increases-for-missiles-qods-force/

    "Iran: Budget Increases for Missiles, Qods Force"
    "Many Western diplomats hoped that the lifting of sanctions and new investments that accompanied the implementation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) would bolster the hands of more reform-minded elements within the Iranian political spectrum. If money talks, however, it seems that more hardline elements have the upper hand in where and how to allocate funding. The accompanying remarks by Kazem Jalali, who runs the major research arm for Iran’s parliament, suggest budget increases are looming for Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Qods Force—the elite unit of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) charged with export of the revolution.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...get-amid-rising-tensions-with-trump-tr8gdzlpx

    "Iran increases ballistic missile budget amid rising tensions with Trump"
    "Iran’s parliament has voted to increase spending on its ballistic missile programme and on foreign operations by the Revolutionary Guard, chanting “death to America” as it did so."
     
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    Just read a history book and you will see that Operation Ajax was not the myth you'd like it to be.
     
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    Instead of these fantasies let's see real proof from the IAEA which monitors all such efforts.
     
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    The IAEA does not monitor either. Try to inform yourself before posting such nonsense.
     
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    I'm sure you're such an expert on this topic, why don't you explain to the rest of us?
     
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    See my previous links on the topic. Same with the IAEA.
     
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    It is called "defence". 'Sanctions' is an entirely different (though related) matter.

    The US destroyed Iran's democratic government once already in their quest to steal Iran's oil fields. This time Iran will have means with which to strike back. In the face of a large and aggressive bully, giving him a bloody nose is better than standing still doing nothing at all.
     
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    Bravo, Notme! It is nice to see that someone understands the situation. Most people do not.
     
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    By clarifying Iran's outspoken criticism of Israel (and the US) readers who might not know much about the situation will have a better understanding of why Iran's weapons program is not only justified - but imperative.
     
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    Spot on.


    Isn't funny how so many of this forum's right wingers believe every nation on earth has a right to defend itself except for Iran?
     
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    I never thought about it that way. You're right!
     
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    Here's some proof that Iran is adhering to the nuclear deal but given the bellicose rhetoric from Washington DC & Jerusalem, Iran would be crazy not to bolster its defensive capabilities since both Israel & the US are among the primary sponsors of terrorism in the Region

    "Iran adhering to nuclear deal with world powers, U.N. watchdog says"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...01f919a8c86_story.html?utm_term=.e451633a79ba
     
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    True, true. :winner:
     
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    Iran would NEVER give a nuke to a terrorist group....NEVER. No one is THAT stupid.

    One) Terrorists are known whackos - who change their minds on an hourly basis. No country would EVER give nukes to terrorists because they have no way of knowing if a) the terrorists would actually use them as they say; b) they don't get pissed off one day and use them on the people who gave the nuke to them; c) sell them for TONS of money/arms to someone the original country does not like; d) use them as advertised but boast that they did it and where they got the nuke from.

    Two) Think. Do you really think that if terrorists blow up Tel Aviv with a nuke, that Israel (and the entire world) is not going to assume that they got the nuke from Iran? Of course they will...even if the terrorist group denies it.
    And within ten minutes, Israeli, nuclear-tipped IRBM's would be hurtling towards Iran.

    There is NO WAY Iran would EVER sell/give nukes to a terrorist group. NO WAY.
     
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    Yes, it's hypocritical, but, IMO, a standard tactic by anti-semitics.
     
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    Missed your daily dose of Al-Jezeera? Here ya go, li'l buddy!:
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...ks-boost-missile-funding-170813085026024.html
    Iran's parliament has overwhelmingly voted to increase spending on Tehran's ballistic missile programme and the elite Revolutionary Guards in retaliation for new sanctions imposed by the United States.

    In a session on Sunday, a total of 240 politicians out of 244 present voted to allocate $520m to develop the country's missile programme and boost foreign operations of the paramilitary troops, with only one abstention.

    Parliamentarians approved the outlines of the bill to "counter America's terrorist and adventurist actions in the region" as some chanted "Death to America" after the vote results were announced.


    For balance: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...iles-guards-after-u-s-sanctions-idUSKCN1AT083
    ...The measure would also allocate over $260 million each to Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Quds Force - the external arm of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which has been deployed to battlefields in Iraq and Syria.

    Deputy Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi told members of parliament that the government backed the bill, which he said “was designed wisely so that it does not violate the (nuclear deal) and provide excuses for opposing sides”, state news agency IRNA reported
    ....
     
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    1) Iran is well known to support terrorism and has done so for decades.

    2) Iran is well known to consider the US "the Great Satan" and to scream "Death to Israel!" so, yes, while it would be stupid, that doesn't mean they wouldn't do it.
     
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    Perhaps you are not aware that your source is Sunni while Iran is Shiia - these people are at war. They are fomenting anti-Iran propaganda because they want gullible Americans on their side if further hostilities break out.

    Now show me real PROOF from the IAEA which monitors all such activity to confirm the OP's premise.
     
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    BINGO.

    This is from the UN's watchdog. The sole authority on the subject. Now let's see "proof" from the deluded right wingers to show that any of this is incorrect.
     
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    I'm afraid that our deluded, war mongering Right Wingers have been too thoroughly programmed via our pro Israel MSM to do anything but chant "greatest sponsors of world terrorism" & nonsense about Iran being a threat to their dear Israel to recognize truth if it were a cattle prod.

    Even informed Israelis recognize the importance of the nuclear deal:

    "Israeli defense experts warn against dropping Iran nuke deal"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...97043e57a22_story.html?utm_term=.1cfdb5413cb8

    EXCERPT "Most of Trump’s top national security aides do not want to dismantle the nuclear deal, and America’s European allies have also urged the Trump administration not to walk away."CONTINUED
     
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    People like you and me continue to post these truths on this forum but they are continually ignored by the deluded far right. No matter how many times we post the truth, they respond with their lies on this and other threads.
     
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    No answer?
    Chicken!
     
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    I have no illusions of changing anyone's mind that is hardened in a position and have no control over lies / delusions posted by other individuals here or elsewhere.

    We can only hope to post the truth for those open minded individuals who are looking at these Posts for something different than what they may hear via our pro Israel MSM(1)

    Thanks


    “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U
    EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”
    In fact, three main dailies here from mid-July to mid-August easily gave the impression that U.S. President Barack Obama, not Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was prosecuting a war against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The U.S. State Department continues to list the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) as a terrorist organization.
    Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal dispelled any doubt about which side it was on. On Aug. 2-3, its Review section gave a two-page spread — “In Defense of Zionism” — against an oversize photo of a flag-raising ceremony in Israel, in 1948.”CONTINUED
     

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