Iran's Supreme Leader has declared nukes to be anti-Islamic

Israel will never know peace. The opportunities for peace have all been missed. Both sides are at fault. Now the Palestinians have become crazed beasts and it is too late to talk.

 

No, what broke the USSR is that communism is unworkable and empire is unworkable.

No, authoritarianism is LESS sustainable than a free society. Any look at history can tell you that, as well as logic. Command and control regimes don't work.

Should they be thankful for the dictators the US has propped, the US engineered wars, the children starved through sanctions and killed through bombs? Well, they aren't. They aren't thankful for America's bombs of love. Time to come home.

 

"Crazed beasts"...Lol.

 

First, you said we should ignore Khamenei's declaration because Montazeri doesn't like him and is superior. But now you say we shouldn't mind what Montazeri says because Khamenei doesn't listen to him? So we should ignore Khamenei because he doesn't like to Montazeri but we should also ignore Montazeri because he doesn't like Khamenei. Ooo-kay.

Okay, but from what I read, it's like a Christian theologian saying it would be okay to lie to a gestapo officer asking, "Are there any Jews in here?" Even Catholicism, which, strictly speaking, bans all lying, permits deception through technically true but misleading statements. It's called wide mental reservation. But only a bigot would use this to claim that the teachings of Christian churches are deliberate lies.

Other clerics don't run the Iranian government. You say he's lying and that this is permitted under "taqiyya," but that would be lying in a public and binding religious declaration, thereby deceiving other Shiite Muslims on their own religious doctrine. It would be like the pope lying in an authoritative encyclical.

I never said it's conclusively peaceful. I've just said it's not conclusively warlike and there are good reasons, stated in the OP, that it isn't

 

An extremely thoughtful and erudite analysis in the OP and above. Also one needs to consider that Iran's official "enemy", Israel, currently has a stockpile of an estimated 400 nuclear weapons which it attempted to hide from the international community until a brave Israeli nuclear technician whistlelower blew their cover. For his trouble, he was arrested and subsequently jailed for nearly two decades, much of which he spent in solitary confinement. But anyway, I digress.

The point is, that Israel attempted to clandestingly build a massive nuclear arsenal, is not monitered at all by the IAEA, and moreover, refuses to sign up to the nuclear NPT. Iran, on the other hand, is not only a signatory to the said treaty but abides by its rules which itself indicates a level of good faith. Historically Iran has not invaded or attacked anybody for centuries, the exception being Iraq during the 1980s when she acted in self-defence against the Saddam regime.

Her adversary Israel, on the other hand, has a history of openly threatening Iran, often with nuclear attack and has pre-emptively attacked Lebanon as well as her regular illegal incursions into Palestine.The truth is, it is not Iran that is the out of control rogue state, but Israel.

 

Using nuclear weapons is totally unislamic.

Iran is not making nuclear weapons just as Saddam didn't have WMD's.
It's all US-Saudi-Israeli lies.
The 3 muskiteers are up to their old tricks.

 

From your lips to god,

I never read the Koran so i dont know how serius this forbedden, but, we as targets feel less confident about how a decent Muslem should act and more aware of what Muslem fanatics say,

Besides who can say some day a rulling be passed that for the sake of saving the world from the zionist devils - the use of nuke is allowed?

 

It only needs one fanatic to run a country. You've got Netanyahu and his Zionist cabal who, as far as the world is concerned, speak for all Israelis.
You need to vote him out.

 

I daugt he will be voted again but he is not fanatic, he's an Idiot, his forighn minister is the fanatic and god forbid he'll ever be elected, i hope Hizballah and Hamas dont plan something before our elections, if it comes to choose betwwn a lier,fanatic or an Idiot, the Idiot is not so bad as long as he understands what is expected of him, kind of what we did in recent demonstrations

 

The only weapons that are permitted in Islamic law are accurate weapons with no chance of civilian casualty. Its a good thing we have Islam in this world because many of the teachings are plainly spoken ancient universal laws.

You fight with bombs you deserve to die by the bomb. If you want a man dead fight him with your hands, your eyes, your words and your following.

 

Most Islamic Jihad groups are using missles which are also a violation of Islamic law. Using a missle or a bomb in a city is just as bad as driving a plane into a crowded building except when the Americans do it they have their ARMY out of bounds and name and invasion anything but that. Death to the americans and their allies in afganistan and everywhere outside the borders of the UNited States/

 

I think we breached this prohibition of civilian casualties along time ago

 

Of course we did we even claimed direct attacks on civilians necessary to end a world war. The other side ran out of cash....the bombs as heinous crimes against humanity in a response to a formidable attack and anihalation of pearl harbor. The bombs actually had nothing to do with ending the world wars. They actually created the next wars and every single one after.

The nuclear nations need to fall. Until they give up thier weapons an attack on thier soil with those weapons is justified. The united states also makes superviruses to use in war.

The nation are despicable and its no wonder they have driven men to insanity.

 

Good; so you condemn 9/11, suicide bombers, car bombs and any other similar atrocity committed in the name of Allah, which resulted in civilian casualties?

 

Yes. I believe in sniping sadaam, bush and pretty soon obama. The power of one american is astounding. If I ever kill for a country it will be as a sniper.

In fact it is muslim duty to rise against those who pervert islam. I much sooner assassinate osama and any dictator except communist dictators.

 

Suicide is also totally islamic, but Muslims still use it as a military tactic.

The Saudi-American relationship has deteriorated. The Saudis are looking for new friends.

The Israeli-American relationship has deteriorated. The Israelis are looking for new friends.

American influence in the ME is rapidly declining.

Egypt is a one bomb country. One low yield nuke at the base of the Aswan High Dam brings five thousand years of civilization to an end. Egypt is like a boxer with a glass jaw.