Irrational Dr.Rand Paul and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene claim Vax and masks don't work.

Gee, an unsupported claim about Rand Paul. How novel.

 

And if trump was POTUS you guys wouldn't be saying the vaccine doesn't work is deadly, etc.

 

Trump pushed the vaccines and still does so this is a fail on your part. Not wanting to take the vaccine has nothing to do with any politician. It should be instructive that the most vaccine hesitant are PHD's. Minorities too.

Now for the vaccine itself. It is not approved by the FDA and in some cases it has killed people. As far as it doesn't work, that is a silly statement. It was pushed to end Covid but that is literally impossible and a lack of understanding about these types of viruses. Not only that, it degrades significantly after 4 months according to Israel and the Pfizer vaccine. It was pushed by the likes of Biden saying you can't catch Covid if vaccinated but that too is false.

 

Of course! Everyone knows that all you have to do is look on FaceBook and Twitter to become an *expert* on ANY topic under the sun (and maybe beyond the sun!). You don't have to have a HS diploma or GED or worked in ANY capacity in the field, known anybody who has any knowledge of your chosen field of "expertise." The BEST part is you can go to about 50,000 websites and create all kinds of pretty graphs and charts to make memes to distribute to everyone in your contact list!!!! This offer comes complete with a certificate so you can tell the whole world of your 10 minute "education" in the topic of your choice. As an extra BONUS (only if you call NOW), you will get FREE an additional quick list of insults, deflections and denials for anybody that dares to question your skill set, training, experience or knowledge about your field of choice. Call now. Operators are standing by!

 

LOL, well done!

 

Yet the CDC and NIH are ignoring their own sanctioned science studies on masks.

Someone posted an article on masks to show they work so I read the paper that was linked. I think it was here but can't find the thread. The study could not count anything below 0.3 microns and showed that all masks passed different percentages below 1 micron which increased with the decrease in size. One of the interesting things was that cloth masks (T shirt material) were worse than no mask even when doubled which supports other studies. What was also interesting is that the hospital masks and N95 masks were no better in some cases which were things like talking, coughing, breathing, and rubbing the mask. The Covid virus is around 0.1 micron in size so attached to droplets below 1 micron in size easily go through all the mask types tested.

Since the virus is airborne larger droplets, or fomites, are not the main problem which masks do help stop.

 

Nope, if trump were POTUS you guys would be yelling from the rooftops about trumps miracle cure.

 

Well, you can fantasize all you want. It's a free country, so far.

 

Except it's not a fantasy, it's an accurate assessment of trumpers posts.

 

Whatever floats your boat. LOL

 

Just what we need … Singapore data for the US…. Nice deflection….

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/08/10/us/covid-breakthrough-infections-vaccines.html


Here are some numbers from Aug 10… notice they are not from the CDC … who quit monitoring breakthrough vaccinated deaths and hospitalization in May… it is from a fake news site, so the numbers may be fake also…..

“”Fully vaccinated people have made up as few as 0.1 percent of and as many as 5 percent of those hospitalized with the virus in those states, and as few as 0.2 percent and as many as 6 percent of those who have died.””
Hospitalized


Deaths

 

And the face of the fellow standing behind you.

 

Did you see this...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rand-paul-discloses-16-months-030124977.html

Sixteen months late, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Wednesday filed a disclosure with the Senate revealing that on Feb. 26, 2020, his wife, Kelley, purchased stock in Gilead Sciences, a company that produces an antiviral drug used to treat COVID-19.

Seems he had a monetary stake in the virus being widespread as possible.

 

Why on earth would the CDC stop monitoring breakthrough deaths ?

 

Because those statistics are RACIST!!
Or, maybe because they contradict the official narrative.

 

We have absolute proof that the "R" means it's acceptable. After all, they elected, some literally fought for, and STILL defend his every action as if he is an immortal infallible super genius who loves them with all this heart.

Do you seriously think Rand (Fauci, et. al) having a vested interest in COVID medications is going to bother them? That's rhetorical, Darth. I know you know it won't.

 

Show us proof that masks actually work. The few times I was out and about next to people was when I food shopped, and I had always worn a mask during those times. But low and behold when tested for COVID the results came back that I tested positive for COVID. You can take those useless politically charged, socially and psychologically disabling masks and shove them up Fauci's and biden's you know what.

 

If Trump followers got the vaccine, the bots that Bill Gates put in them would do their job and they would all... either become communists, or get blood clots. I can't remember which....

 

So nonsense. To be expected.

 

Dear God! We have had this pandemic for over a year and a half. For almost all that time, study after study has been published to demonstrate that masks work. They have been referenced hundreds of times in the press (even right-wing press) and in this forum. And you STILL ask for proof?

Do you also need proof that the planet is not flat, of Global Warming, evolution, or that the Sun does not revolve around the Earth?

 

almost 100% of the people that say masks do not work, would be upset if their surgeon did not wear a mask while a loved one got surgery

 

Vaccines work, but there is no such proof that wearing a mask keeps you protected from catching the virus, as my post # 92 clearly suggests. Wearing the mask didn't protect me from acquiring the virus, as wearing the mask also failed many more people from them catching the virus. Many football players who wear helmets to protect their heads from injury find out later that receiving concussions while wearing those helmets forced them to retire from playing football altogether. So both helmets and masks are anything but soundproof protection from getting the ailment they were made to protect against in the first place. Got it now?

 

Yes there is!

And if you don't understand how science works but, instead, think that you are the norm (because you believe the world revolves around you), then you want to spread as much anti-science disinformation as you can so others will get sick too, right?

Got it!

 

How exactly does science prove that wearing masks prevents one from catching the COVID virus? The mask certainly didn't prevent me from catching it. So show me where scientists claim that wearing masks is a sure proof method of preventing people from catching COVID.

 

In fact, there has been ample proof that masks, as Fauci has admitted, do not work for over 75 years.

“Abstract

There were 3 influenza pandemics in the 20th century, and there has been 1 so far in the 21st century. Local, national, and international health authorities regularly update their plans for mitigating the next influenza pandemic in light of the latest available evidence on the effectiveness of various control measures in reducing transmission. Here, we review the evidence base on the effectiveness of nonpharmaceutical personal protective measures and environmental hygiene measures in nonhealthcare settings and discuss their potential inclusion in pandemic plans. Although mechanistic studies support the potential effect of hand hygiene or face masks, evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza. We similarly found limited evidence on the effectiveness of improved hygiene and environmental cleaning. We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.”

Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020, Policy Review, Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures, Jingyi Xiao1, Eunice Y. C. Shiu1, Huizhi Gao, Jessica Y. Wong, Min W. Fong, Sukhyun Ryu, and Benjamin J. Cowling, Author affiliations: University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China. (emphasis mine)
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

The inconvenient truth - again.