Is a personal belief a religion?

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Is a personal belief a religion?

  1. Yes, A personal belief is a religion.

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  2. No. Having a personal belief does not make you religious.

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  1. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    People keep telling me I'm religious because I follow the teachings of...Jesus Christ.

    How is this any different than people following the constitution or following orders? Why is it that if I have a personal belief I'm all the sudden a religious freak?

    What of those who believe in aliens, theories, egyptian cats, invisible suits? are they religious too? Why is it that if you believe in something, like just a guy that said good things all the sudden you are part of a religion?

    I know people that follow teachings of many teachers...school teachers, parents etc. why aren't they religious people?

    1. I don't go to church.
    2. I don't participate in religious activities.

    is a personal belief, a religion?
     
  2. Ozymandias

    Ozymandias New Member

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    religious belief - a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny; "he lost his faith but not his morality"

    Do you consider your beliefs to be in line with that definition?
     
  3. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Why do you call it a religious belief? I said it was a personal belief...nothing to do with religion. Just because the story of Jesus is in the bible does not make it religious.


    If the story of Jesus was in another book, I would still follow his teachings.
     
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    Ozymandias New Member

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    Christianity is a religion, you follow that religion's tenets, you are therefore religious and a Christian.
     
  5. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Logically, you are wrong. Have you lost your sense of logic?
     
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    Where is the fault in logic?
     
  7. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    You are saying that following someone's teachings or theories are religious.

    this is the equation.

    The teachings of Albert Eisntein= Non religious.
    The teachings of Ghandi= Non Religious.
    Math theories= Non Religious.
    Teachings of Martin Luther King= Non Religious.

    Teachings of Jesus Christ=?
     
  8. Uncle Meat

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    Teachings of Jesus Christ= Nonsensical
     
  9. Incorporeal

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    Well of course you are expected to make some comment such as the above.

    "1Cr 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. "

    You see: The Holy Spirit (knowing the hearts of man) inspired that writing and the Holy Spirit had people like you in mind when that was written.
     
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    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Well said, the teachings of Jesus Christ made sense..and they still do to millions of people. +1 point. UM is just a hating atheist basher, like always.
     
  11. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    If we want to figure out whether something is a religion or not, we have to look at the definition. The definitions of religion are many and varied. Unless you specify what you mean by religion, which definition you use, you can't specify what is a religion and what isn't.

    An example is Buddhism. Sometimes, it's called a religion, sometimes, it's not. Therefore, if the fact that Buddhism is a religion changes anything, you've based it solely on the word and not the actual reason why it is called a religion.
     
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    Buddhism fit the description of a religion because it addresses the metaphysical realm. They do believe in some form of reward and in the judgment of their essence by something superior to them.
     
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    If you follow Jesus's teachings and philosophy without considering him to be a god...then you are just philosophical, but nbot religious.
     
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    The Arian and Cathars didn't believe that Jesus was God, and they were persecuted and killed for their RELIGIOUS beliefs.
     
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    It is not a religious belief if you do not consider him to be a devine being.......THey were killed for not following other people's religious beliefs, not for following their own.
     
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    It is a religious belief because they still believed in GOD. They just didn't believed in the trinity. They were killed for their belief which conflicted with the religious belief of the majority. Their belief is wath set them apart from the rest. Without those religious belief they wouldn't have been killed.
     
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    A religion is a set of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. I hope that you are religious in your following of Christ.

    A personal belief is a religion if you are very passionate or serious about it.
     
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    Well I'm very passionate in my belief that lasagna is the best pasta dishes on earth, but that doesn't makes it a religious belief... :mrgreen:
     
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    To apply logic to religious theology is akin to applying logic to the existence of Santa Claus. Logic plays no part in religion. Religion is a dictate, especially if you are a Christian.

    Perhaps we can apply logic to the great thinkers of philosophy like Aristotle... but logic holds no place in a mono theistic religion like Christianity.
     
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    Actually it does in Christianity. This is why the main christian sect accept evolution and other scientific fact and theories. The muslim on the other hand...
     
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    What is "the main christian sect"?
     
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    with as tenuous a grasp as you have on modern English, that's exactly what i would expect you to get from the King James version. if you tried a modern translation less of it would go over your head.
     
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    I was wondering that to. I know that Christianity is like Baskin Robbins... 31 flavors... really like 100 flavors when applied to Christianity. Sure there are some progressive Churches, but I have yet to meet a Christian that believes in evolution. Perhaps things are a bit different in Canada.
     
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    Well, yeah! I like that analogy of the 100 flavors. Rocky road is my favorite. Anyway, I think what the poster might have been talking about are the churches that are incorporated. Being incorporated, they must maintain an aire of political correctness. That way (being politically correct) they can be assured of being allowed to keep their doors open on Sunday and Wednesday.

    Personally, I prefer to worship in the manner that Paul prescribed in Hebrews: "Hbr 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. "

    Notice that in his writing, he specified "in time of need", which can occur at any moment of any day which means that I would not have to wait until Sunday or Wednesday, and especially would not have to depend on the opinions of other men or women to get that help.
     
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    "nonsensical - incongruous;inviting ridicule"

    My English is fine. Others, however ...

    Also, try addressing the topic rather than attacking forum members.
     

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