Is abortion really that bad?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Artythizza, Feb 20, 2011.

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Are you for, or against abortion?

  1. For abortion.

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    43.1%
  2. Against abortion.

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    56.9%
  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    So you are pro abortion?

    If not, why not ? It's just a blob of tissue right?

    You people are SOOOOO Dishonest!
     
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    I am pro-abortion, although I take that term to mean, "In favor of keeping abortion legal."

    When you say pro-abortion how are you defining it? With your handy dandy dictionary I imagine?

    pro·a·bor·tion
       [proh-uh-bawr-shuhn] Show IPA
    –adjective
    pro-choice.
    Also, pro-a·bor·tion.

    pro·abor·tion definition
    Pronunciation: /(ˈ)prō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən/
    Function: adj
    : favoring the legalization of abortion

    So, just another term for pro-choice?
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    No, you are not pro choice! The father has no choice, the child in utero has no choice, You are pro abortion.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    So you are rejecting the dictionary definition?

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/4065964-post232.html
     
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    You must as well because you don't beleive in dictionaries remember!

    Besides this is not a dictionary definition without a link. It is just more pro abortion fraud.
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    When and where did I say that?

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-abortion
     
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    No, sorry, dont see a link, just more BS from you. No dictionary definition!

    Found this one though:

    pro-a·bor·tion (pr-bôrshn)
    adj.
    Favoring or supporting legalized abortion.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    proa·bortion·ist n.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pro-abortion


    Websters?

    pro·abor·tion adj \ˌprō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən\
    Definition of PROABORTION
    : favoring the legalization of abortion
    — pro–abor·tion·ist \-sh(ə-)nist\ noun
    First Known Use of PROABORTION

    Nope, no mention of "pro choice"


    Which is exactly what I have always said it means.
    You are shown, once again, to be a liar!
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I edited my post after you edited yours.

    Look above. Or I guess I'll just post it again since you'll keep barking, "BS BS BS!"

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-abortion
     
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    WOW how deep did you have to dig to find that crap? :laughing:

    Websters and free dictionary online say nothing about the BS moniker" Pro choice".
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Dictionary.com = digging deep?

    wtf are you smoking Whaler? :weed:
     
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    As I said, Websters and Free Dictionary online disagree.

    "pro chioce" is non descriptive of the issue at hand.

    "pro abortion" or "anti abortion" is a true descriptor of a stance on the position.
    Do you disagree?
     
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    Dictionary.com, Websters, and Free Dictionary all agree that pro-choice and pro-abortion have the exact same definition, one could say that the two words are synonyms of each other.

    Pro-choice:

    pro-choice
       [proh-chois] Show IPA
    adjective
    supporting or advocating legalized abortion.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-choice

    pro–choice
    adj \(ˌ)prō-ˈchȯis\
    Definition of PRO-CHOICE
    : favoring the legalization of abortion

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro-choice

    pro-choice (pr-chois)
    adj.
    Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pro-choice

    Pro-abortion

    pro·abor·tion definition
    Pronunciation: /(ˈ)prō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən/
    Function: adj
    : favoring the legalization of abortion

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pro-abortion

    pro·abor·tion
    adj \ˌprō-ə-ˈbȯr-shən\
    Definition of PROABORTION
    : favoring the legalization of abortion

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pro-abortion?show=0&t=1308685508

    pro-a·bor·tion (pr-bôrshn)
    adj.
    Favoring or supporting legalized abortion.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pro-abortion

    Do you disagree?
     
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    I absolutely disagree that "pro choice" has any real meaning at all, yes.
    This is supported by the fact that only one of the definitions you posted contains that idiotic moniker.

    If you look long enough you can find a definition that says almost anything, that is why I stick to the mainstream dictionaries.
     
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    Oh? So you have some more dictionaries where I can find the word pro-choice and pro-abortion meaning exactly the same thing, which you want to ignore and pretend doesn't exist even despite your own views on people who ignore or twist and change definitions to their own liking? Please post them! :-D
     
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    The majority of the definitions YOU POSTED do not agree with your assertion. SO WTF are you sqwawking on about?
     
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    Now I am really lost here. Can you explain, or are you just going to insult me now? =(
     
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    I insulted you? I just pointed out that your definitions did not contain the words "pro choice" , at least the vast majority did not!:sun: :lol:
     
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    No you didn't, but I am afraid by asking you will, because when people ask here they tend to get insulted instead, "Well you're just too stupid to see the obvious aren't you!" "Can't read dumbass!?" etc.

    Now I am baffled again. 3 definitions were pro-choice and 3 were pro-abortion. The pro-choice ones said, "favoring the legalization of abortion" and the pro-abortion ones said, "favoring the legalization of abortion".

    Sooo...wtf are you talking about? Because the definitions themselves didn't have the word pro-choice in them that means they aren't the definitions of those words? Uwah???
     
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    Well I did direct one such comment to one poster, but it was well deserved as that poster displays those tendencies on a regular basis.

    You're not confused, you are playing games. It is very simple. Look for the words "pro choice". Don't see them? That is my point!

    The words "pro choice" mean nothing. They do not describe one's position on abortion at all. That is my point (for the hundreth time).
     
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    I see the words pro-choice and I see 3 definitions of said words right there.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/4073134-post287.html

    I friggin' pulled up dictionary definitions of these words and you're sitting here saying they mean nothing or simply pretending they don't exist. They have been defined 3 times as the exact same thing, twice in the dictionaries you gave me plus one more.

    I get it that one time in your life you don't like a word or the dictionary definition of said word, but by your own standards you have to accept that it exists, lest we start rejecting definitions and redefining them how we see fit.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/4065964-post232.html
     
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    I don't see "pro abortion" definitions with "pro choice" listed as synonyms, with the exception of one rogue definition.
     
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    One rogue definition? I didn't realize accepted dictionary definitions had the capability to go rogue now.

    Both pro-choice and pro-abortion mean exactly the same thing; "favoring the legalization of abortion" making them synonyms of each other.

    I will even define synonym for you now;

    syn·o·nym
       [sin-uh-nim] Show IPA
    noun
    1.
    a word having the same or nearly the same meaning as another in the language, as joyful, elated, glad.
    2.
    a word or expression accepted as another name for something, as Arcadia for pastoral simplicity; metonym.
    3.
    Biology . one of two or more scientific names applied to a single taxon.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/language

    syn·o·nym
    noun \ˈsi-nə-ˌnim\
    Definition of SYNONYM
    1
    : one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses
    2
    a : a word or phrase that by association is held to embody something (as a concept or quality) <a tyrant whose name has become a synonym for oppression> b : metonym
    3
    : one of two or more scientific names used to designate the same taxonomic group — compare homonym

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/synonym

    syn·o·nym (sn-nm)
    n.
    1. A word having the same or nearly the same meaning as another word or other words in a language.
    2. A word or an expression that serves as a figurative or symbolic substitute for another.
    3. Biology A scientific name of an organism or of a taxonomic group that has been superseded by another name at the same rank.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/synonym

    But maybe you'll deny the accepted dictionary definition for synonym now too and continue to deny that pro-choice = pro-abortion considering they both have EXACTLY the same definitions as defined by these three dictionaries.
     
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    I can find a dictionary definition for the word "Aint" , does that mean it is a legitimate word?
     
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    Is it ok if we start using your own arguments against definitions every time you use definitions?

    Also, yes. Ain't = slang for Are not.
     
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    I conceed that there is a large group of people who are pro abortion, but call themselves "pro-choice", but I also maintain that the term "pro-choice" is non descipt and does not describe their position on abortion.

    I imagine you can find a group of people called "freedom fighters" somewhere who are anything but. But if you look up the definition of "freedom fighters" it would describe them differently than they are.

    I approve of and promote a woman's right to choose who to vote for, what car to buy, who to marry, etc..... so I am pro choice without a doubt! But I oppose her having the right to commit abortion homicide.
     

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